[jawsscripts] Re: JAWS and 3270 emulators.

  • From: "The Elf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:14:32 -0700

hello folks,

a little side bar here, I no longer have the URL for them, but someone out 
here has a, from what I herd, excellent set of jaws scripts for this 
emulator already.

we just need to find them again! (if someone does, please let me know so I 
can reestablish my ability to let folks know about them!)

regards,
inthane
proprietor, The Grab Bag,
for blind computer users and programmers
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Marcotte" <larry.marcotte@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 5:44 AM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: JAWS and 3270 emulators.


> Hi Charles
>
> As Ann has stated, it may seem overwhelming at the beginning but 
> programming
> with the use of 3270 emulation screens is quite feasible.
> You will not need to create some JAWS scripts to scrape each screen for
> specific information as was stated in a prior email.
> The tab key is used to jump from field to field with the labels to each
> field most of the time located just to the left of each field or sometimes
> on the line just above the field.
> It would be convenient to create a little script which would announce the
> label to the left of each field which would jump to the prior chunk
> (GetPriorChunk in scripting language) and announce the label every time 
> you
> press the tab key.
> When browsing through Cobol or jcl screens, in a similar fashion, you 
> could
> code a little script which would speak out the information you are wanting
> to hear without hearing the Cobol sequence on the left side of each line
> every time you use the up or down cursor navigating keys.
> You could use the GetTextBetween function in JAWS language to speak out
> lines of code in Cobol by specifying you want to hear data which exists
> between column 7 to 72 on each line.
>
> These little tricks might not provide the precise or eloquent 
> announcements
> as may be available in customized scripts but it will give you a flavour 
> how
> you can have control over what you want announced by coding the scripts
> yourself and it will get you started with some features helpful to your
> needs.
>
> As Ann stated, once you set the emulation session so the cursor is 
> blinking
> so Jaws can track the highlighted information being reviewed when tabbing
> from field to field, you will find with some experimenting, navigating
> through the TSO, ISPF, Cobol AND jcl screens becomes second nature.
> Oh yes, be sure to find out how to make sure the feature know as "cross
> hairs" is turned off.
> The cross hairs is useful to sighted people but gets in the way for JAWS 
> to
> track the blinking cursor.
>
> I hope these tip bits are help out and wish you all the luck with your new
> endeavour.
>
> Larry
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:jawsscripts-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ann Medlar
> Sent: July 15, 2009 7:27 AM
> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: JAWS and 3270 emulators.
>
> Hi Charles,
> I programmed using Cobol, T s o, and JCL for many years.  Back then I had 
> a
> dedicated 3270 IBM terminal.  To read code I could press keys on keypad to
> only speak from column 7 - 133 or whatever frame is relevant.    There 
> were
> sequence numbers at beginning of each line that were very distracting.  a 
> *
> means a comment in JCL and Cobol so important to capture whatever column
> this is in.
> However, I used a 3270 emulator, I think called ACF2 or something like 
> that.
>
> I also coded Realia Cobol on DOS platform using t s o on PC platform. 
> There
> are different emmulators and the one I mentioned  was what FS recommended
> back then.  Honestly Jaws worked fine.  Frames were used to speak menus 
> and
> once you get the blinking cursor identified I believe the cursor landed on
> highlighted field and frames read menus.  Honestly, once you learn 
> structure
> you will know exactly where to type data.
> T S O is an IBM editor, that once you learn the numbers you can just type
> say 2 and enter and you go directly to edit menu where you type user
> information enter and  type code on plank screen.    I forget many key
> strokes but there are not many.  You code JCL the same way.  There is a
> command line and you type sub to submit JCl to compile program.  Then you
> can type 3.2 or something like that to go to output queue.  Arrow down 
> until
> you find your dedicated name like Prog006 and some letters to identify 
> that
> this is you enter and you will get your compiled version of your program. 
> I
> used to type on command line f "error me" and cursor would go directly to
> error messages.  As a novice programmer this list seems endless.  Compile
> tells you line where error is so you go to top and type line no to read
> code.  After a few months it becomes second nature.  Actually Cobol, UJCL, 
> T
> S O is easily managed once you get commands down.  Overwhelming in 
> beginning
> but simple once you get it.
> Best of luck.
> Ann
> I don't know if Mainframe platform and windows platforms are integrated, 
> but
> I used to press both shift keys to togel back and forth.  But if 
> integrated
> you might be able to type code using notepad or wordpad copy to clipboard
> and then copy to mainframe platform if you cannot use TSO directly on
> mainframe platform.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Charles Black" <charlesblackusc@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 7:38 PM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] JAWS and 3270 emulators.
>
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am starting a job where I will be using 3270 emulation, IBM, Windows
>> XP and a mainframe to develop COBOL programs.  This involves using
>> TSO, JCL, AASD compiler, and things I am sure I haven't heard of yet.
>>
>> Firstly, is there a method of getting JAWS 10 to be friendly with the
>> 3270 emulator.  Is there a method of getting JAWS to recognize the
>> AASD compiler?
>> Is there a way to get JAWS to announce what is on the screen; but only
>> my code?  Any direction would be helpful.
>>
>> Charles E. Black
>> charlesblackusc@xxxxxxxxx
>>
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