[jawsscripts] Re: Issues when scripting for 64-bit Windows versions
- From: empower@xxxxxxxxx
- To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:30:05 -0500 (EST)
Hi Donald and others,
Several months back, I attempted changes for 64-compatibility of JSX,
without success. I do not have a 64-bit (or Windows 7) machine to test
with, so debugging this is difficult. JSX is a 32-bit program written
in the WinBatch language from
http://WinBatch.com
It is open source, so if anyone wants to try to fix the problem using a
demo WinBatch interpreter, feel free. I know it is difficult to debug
someone else's code though -- I am just making developers aware of that
option.
I just upgraded to the latest WinBatch which says it includes some
64-bit registry and Windows 7 fixes. I'll try recompiling JSX in the
next week or so and post a version for feedback. WinBatch apparently
is capable of reading the 64-bit view of the registry from a 32-bit
process, so I have some hope of resolving this eventually.
I don't think the Inno Setup adjustments would make enough of a difference
in this
case because it is WinBatch rather than Inno Setup code that looks for
JAWS-related paths in the registry.
Jamal
On Sat, 21 Nov 2009, Donald Marang
wrote:
> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:45:25 -0500
> From: Donald Marang <donald.marang@xxxxxxxxx>
> Reply-To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Issues when scripting for 64-bit Windows versions
>
> Jamal, has the JAWS Script Exchange (JSX) application been changed to
> address this issue to resolve installing scripts on a 64 bit system in
> general? Are there additional steps required that I may not be performing?
>
> Thanks Doug for verifying most of my assumptions and that I understood your
> previous message.
>
> Don Marang
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Doug Lee" <doug.lee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 10:26 AM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Issues when scripting for 64-bit Windows versions
>
>
>> You have the right line of code and in the right ISS section, but I
>> can't tell you about how JSX puts things together from there. You do
>> need to rebuild your exe file(s) after making that change though.
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 03:16:11PM -0500, Donald Marang wrote:
>> Hi Doug,
>>
>> I have several scripts which I use JSX to package for distribution. I
>> currently do not have access to a 64 bit computer, but I wanted to create
>> my
>> JSX packages so they would work on 64 bit systems as well. I added the
>> following line you previously suggested toward the bottom of the [Setup]
>> section of my Scripts.iss file within the C:\JSX directory.
>> ArchitecturesInstallIn64BitMode=x64 ia64
>>
>> I am told this is not working. Previously, the only changes I have made
>> to
>> this file has been to set constants for version, developer, copyright, and
>> so on. I have had to only edit this file to make it use these constants.
>> Is this the correct file to update for 64 bit? Does the placement within
>> the section matter? Are there more steps required, such as compiling? Is
>> a
>> new version of JSX required that has made this change, compiled, and
>> redistributed?
>>
>> Clearly, I am missing something here. Since I can not test the 64 bit
>> installer for our VMware scripts, Chris Hallsworth will test it out on his
>> Windows 7 64 bit system.
>>
>> Don Marang
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Doug Lee" <doug.lee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 03, 2009 3:30 PM
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Issues when scripting for 64-bit Windows versions
>>
>>
>>> This is probably old news to some out there, but in case not...
>>>
>>> I have spent this week working out a few issues with JAWS scripts on
>>> 64-bit Windows versions. One issue I ran into was that Inno Setup
>>> installers for such scripts could not find the JAWS registry entries
>>> indicating where to install scripts for the various compatible JAWS
>>> versions on a 64-bit machine.
>>>
>>> In summary, it turns out that you have to add something like the
>>> following line to the [Setup] section of your .iss file:
>>>
>>> ArchitecturesInstallIn64BitMode=x64 ia64
>>>
>>> Without that line, Inno Setup will always have the installer run in
>>> 32-bit mode. This is a problem on a 64-bit Windows version because
>>> JAWS itself, being a 64-bit process there, will not list itself in the
>>> 32-bit version of the system registry. For an Inno Setup installer to
>>> find the registry entries for JAWS, it has to run in 64-bit mode and
>>> use the 64-bit version of the registry. (I suppose it might be
>>> possible to access the 64-bit version of the registry from a 32-bit
>>> process, but this method of solving the problem seems easier than
>>> working that out in a way that doesn't break compatibility with 32-bit
>>> Windows versions.)
>>>
>>> Another issue I encountered was that some objects that exist on 32-bit
>>> Windows do not exist on 64-bit Windows. Most prevalent in my work
>>> among these is the MSScriptControl.ScriptControl object, which comes
>>> from c:\windows\system32\MSScript.ocx. According to my research,
>>> there is no 64-bit version of this object available or planned by
>>> Microsoft. I doubt many scripters have used this, but I have on a few
>>> occasions. Since Microsoft encouraged dynamic scripting of this sort
>>> for years, I was quite stunned to discover that they are apparently
>>> dropping support for this one.
>>>
>>> Any further input from JAWS scripters working with 64-bit Windows
>>> versions is welcome indeed.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Doug Lee, Senior Accessibility Programmer
>>> SSB BART Group - Accessibility-on-Demand
>>> mailto:doug.lee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.ssbbartgroup.com
>>> "While they were saying among themselves it cannot be done,
>>> it was done." --Helen Keller
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>> SSB BART Group - Accessibility-on-Demand
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