Hi Colin, Dorothy and all, Well, let me tell you this. One of the biggest, and probably the most unfortunate, problems I have experienced is, my teacher having been paid for two and a half days worth of one-to-one training at the start of this year, and only being bothered to give me just half a day! I have tried, however, to contact him several times, but, he seemed to have disappeared off the face of God's earth! Hence, my joining this list, and seeming a little, if not a lot, unknowing regarding many things. I am finding it so refreshing, hearing of so many people willing to help each other. Keep it up! Regards, Angela. -----Original Message----- From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Colin Baxter Sent: August 29, 2005 5:40 PM To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: quick reply to dorathy Hi Dorothy and all, One of the major errors which my computer teachers made was failing to explain which issues/commands belonged to Jaws, which belonged to Windows and which belonged to the application programs. It took me years to unscramble all the task-based muddle. Cheers Colin -----Original Message----- From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Nigel Sent: 29 August 2005 15:18 To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jaws-uk] quick reply to dorathy Dorothy, I am very sorry you are having so much difficulty. I have often wondered how some one with no or little computer experience with a visual impairment could get into using a computer considering all the pit falls, some of which you mentioned in your email. Before I started having trouble with my hearing I did a little bit of training of Jaws and I did this for free. I don't think many people do this unfortunately. I myself was lucky in that respect. I know you are very frustrated and I really don't know how to console you. I should probably start by apologising for asking if English was your first language. As I read down your emails and the replies it became clear that your problem was with Jaws in outlook. I have another idea which I will mention shortly in a following email. Nigel It's not what Operating system you use, it's how productive you are with it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy Ingram-Gorban" <user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 12:49 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] Quick answer for Nigel > Yes it is . It was also the first language of the many tutors I paid very > handsomely to tutor me in a home situation as I have other disabilities > as well as Sight and if I ever want to have a laugh I listen on tape to > their recorded sessions. One lady a Jaws buff who is the tutor for her > whole Charity can be hear saying to Jaws the following Shirrup > shirrup and he is blathering. nice Olde English word that?? The she > runs a repaired Wizard and get a patch and them > > > > > > > > > > > > pocketing a hundred pounds fee from me says " seeing Jaws > > > > > > > > > > > do that has taken away her wish to live" then she shoot so of to sunny > Spain leaving Jaws reading thentimesmore than when she came? I kid you > this is repeated 2 times by said > > > > > > > > > > > > lady who shall be nameless. I have the same things from the so called > master himself who sleft say that someone who shallbe nameless must > " write a script" does he like hell. English was their first and my > first language in each and every case the only difference is that they > were highly paid and qualified and I not and I the observer of this farce > do by you want more.Dorothy Ok not a quick answer but is is what you get > buddy. and is true. I have skipped the spell check for obvious reasons as > you donot know them then cut the criticism and find out the answers. > Oneman I knw who is very clever thinks it is a problemnot with Jaws but > with Oe and Windows and the internet and said go to Microsoft. They > tellme to go to some one else and I do and have given you the benefit of > my experince that is of course if you want it. if not Ok but it is out > there now in your court as they say If I were to add up all the many > many sums I have paid to learned tutors I could travel around the Globe. > Not 1 of them agreed with another I culd take all their opinions and type > them out and put on a wall and get a take Chim to throw darts at it. > and make a choice Well it wokred with the STockpicking team I am told of > the FT. 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