[jaws-uk] jaws problems with realspeak

From: "john coley" <johncoley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 19:06:05 +0100
hI EVERYBODY, i HAVE BEEN USING dANIEL, ONE OF THE REALSPEAK VOIces to be 
provided with Jaws 8.0 FOR SIX MONTHS NOW. aLTHOUGH THE VOICE IS VERY CLEAR, 
AS ANYONE

WHO'S LISTENED TO THE jAWS 8.0 PRESENTATION CAN HEAR, THERE WERE PROBLEMS 
WITH REGARD TO CAPITALIZATION, PUNCTUATION AND THE INAPPROPRIATE EXPANSION

OF WORDS OR PARTS OF WORDS THE SPEECH ENGINE SAW AS ABBREVIATIONS.

  i REPORTED THE PROBLEMS TO fs, WHO EVENTUALLY ESCALATED THE ISSUE TO THEIR 
TEST TEAM. tHEY SAID THE PROBLEMS WERE ALL DUE TO THE REALSPEAK SPEECH 
ENGINE.

  i HAVE PASTED HERE FOR ANYONE WHO'S INTERESTED THE TEXT OF MY ORIGINAL 
EMAIL TO fs REGARDING THE PROBLEMS.

  Given that they are including the realspeak synthesizer with the 8.0 
release I would hope that they have fixed all the problems. I have emailed 
them to ask them, but have as yet had no response.

                    jOHN.



hI EVERYBODY, AS i SAID IN MY LAST POST i HAVE BEEN USING dANIEL, ONE OF THE 
REALSPEAK VOICES FOR SIX MONTHS NOW. aLTHOUGH THE VOICE IS VERY CLEAR, AS 
ANYONE

WHO'S LISTENED TO THE jAWS 8.0 PRESENTATION CAN HEAR, BUT THERE WERE 
PROBLEMS WITH REGARD TO CAPITALIZATION, PUNCTUATION AND THE INAPPROPRIATE 
EXPANSION

OF WORDS OR PARTS OF WORDS THE SPEECH ENGINE SAW AS ABBREVIATIONS.

  i REPORTED THE PROBLEMS TO fs, WHO EVENTUALLY ESCALATED THE ISSUE TO THEIR 
TEST TEAM. tHEY SAID THE PROBLEMS WERE ALL DUE TO THE REALSPEAK SPEECH 
ENGINE.

  i HAVE PASTED HERE FOR ANYONE WHO'S INTERESTED THE TEXT OF MY ORIGINAL 
EMAIL THE fs REGARDING THE PROBLEMS.

                    jOHN.



Hi. I recently bought the Realspeak Daniel voice. It is, without exception 
the best synthesized voice I've ever heard. There are just a couple of small

issues, which hopefully you'll be able to help me with.

  I am using Daniel with Jaws 5.1 professional.

  The first problem is that of capitalisation. No matter how I set

Jaws there is now no indication of case at all.

  Does this preclude its use in any environments in which case sensitivity 
is an issue, or is there a way I can adjust it?

  I find that its not seeing capitals, which start a sentence has the effect 
of the text being read as if there were no capitals or full stops. Pauses 
come

at the end of the line, not sentence.

                        It wouldn't seem to be able to see punctuation 
marks. As it can't see apostrophes "I'll" is read as "I lines", "I'd" as I 
d, "we've"

as we ve etc. Its not seeing full stops is, if anything a worse problem. 
Besides the effect it has on the structured reading of a document full stops 
within

words or between numbers, so 3.6 ghz is read as 3 6 Ghz.

   The second problem is that of abbreviations. Some examples of this 
problem are:

 "psp" is read as Philippines pesos points, "st", which is sometimes read as 
"saint", sometimes as "street", and other

times  in unabbreviated form. This even happpens when the st is preceeded by 
a number, as in a date.

  This also happens with "rd", read as road, the file extention MPG read as 
miles per gallon, M on some occasions being read as "metre" These are just a

few examples.

  I have both Expand Abbreviations and Expand Acronyms turned off.

  I have tried to correct the problem of the inappropriate abbreviations in 
the Jaws dictionary manager, but with limited success. I understand from my

Jaws supplier's tech support that that won't remedy the problem when reading 
a document normally, but only when reading by character or word. Apparently

they have had similar problems themselves due to this inappropriate and 
unwelcome abbreviation.

    As it is a third party voice, and not one provided by Freedom Scientific 
I am unclear as to whether Jaws is solely responsible for the problem, or if

the voice has a dictionary built into it.

  Is there a way I can correct these things?

  I hope you can help,


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