Hello Gary I have a resolution for your problem with Jaws speaking "collapsed" twice without loosing the group by thread, please stand by, I will post it soon. I know what is going on here but I want to check a couple of other things out as well before I post it. Regards. Tristram Llewellyn Sight and Sound Technology Technical Support www.sightandsound.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary Robinson To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 9:17 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] jaws 7.1.417 error with Outlook express Hi, I've just installed the latest version of Jaws and have notice that when it comes across a collapsed message it double reads the "collapsed attribute as in: collapsed unread collapsed ..... when the message group contains an unread message or collapsed collapsed ... when all the grouped messages have been read. Has anyone else come across this(I'm running the XP home edition version). Gary Gary ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq