Thank you Phil, I phoned the KAB who last Monday put time right.They said only a sighted person can do it the double click However I will try what by what you suggest I have not much of a clue about Pixiles other than a flat screen is supposed to have more. I will experiment O.E is very temperamental you do not a thing wrong and it goes on about "expanded" I have that one sorted it is the View Menu find Grouped and press the G. RE the Mute/Sound Phil I have not forgotten you very comprehensive information on that one I printed it out it was about 4 pages. Then I had the Hardrive failure and unless I can find out where I filed the print out I shall be careful. Like the Sticky keys once you do it you never do it again. Re Hardrive. I am sure you were right "treat like your Granny's best Glass" Well No I have lost the Post but remember the substance. Many Thanks. dorothy. ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq