Well sighted friend called in and we followed you advice. I wish I could stop OE from doing this Grouping. I had it before and once had to c.c. to self for months before anyone diagnosed it from a distance as you have done to well. Tiddy re closing a programme properly it is tempting o if Oe offers the option to exit and close as it does however I did it again and exited by Alt and F4 then the compacted offer was there recalling that Debbie said it is a good thing I let it compact it chose a file called Angela and now that one is I imagine flattened out like stamping on a bar of that chocolate with holes in it. sighted friend got patch off Andrews disc to stop Jane and Jennifer babbling like a chipmunk. However he could not link up the printout from laptop in spite of it looking normal and a driver being downloaded. One or 2 other things outstanding but will leave that for a separate posting. Just wanted to thank you both Dorothy Ps Tiddy if you do not use O.E or Outlook or Lotus or Eudora,what do you use do you use Apollo Synthesiser ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq