Sad isn't it in case Andrew not seen thisFreedom willnot do it as you
allknow I have gone to the top of the tree and no not cost effective.. I
amnot using the laptop today as yet still recovering from being told it
is sendingblackon black those who know know it's Dorothy and what to do
but even an Engineer who had set the font to silver and gonehome after
sending to himself phoned me to say" I cannot read any of them!!. I said
why did you not listen tome I told you so before you left and to highlight
them on the other hand ten year olds simply highlight them as one said "
its like receiving a secret letter!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tink Watson" <tink@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 12:43 PM
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Fw: Re E-Mail From Mr M. Schall On Black Screen
Settings
Barry,
I've replicated it here with Jaws 4.5 and 6.0. If need be I'll install some others, but I haven't so far.
The problem is also evident in Outlook, but they share many similarities under the hood, so it's probably not surprising that there is some overlap.
Tink.
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From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Barry Toner
Sent: 29 August 2005 13:25
To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Fw: Re E-Mail From Mr M. Schall On Black Screen
Settings
Hi Barry, excellent suggestions!
You beat me to it with the Word suggestion.
I had just replicated Dorothy's problem here this morning, myself to see
what was going on. It seems to be an Outlook Express, (not sure Outlook
don't have it installed), issue. Windows Explorer and Word seem to do ok.
I've K9 installed on the other machine but I'd imagine it'll work a treat as
Jaws is muted once it's focused on.
Who knows FS may fix it, once they've had another few versions out there, fixed a few things, added a few more bugs into the works.
grin Barry "A man's errors are his portals of discovery". James joyce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry" <bbinc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 8:59 AM Subject: [jaws-uk] Re: Fw: Re E-Mail From Mr M. Schall On Black Screen Settings
work, but that is also worth a try.Hi Dorothy
This is by no means a solution but a work around that you could use.
Does Jaws work in Word in inverse mode? If it does, you could write
your email in Word and send it using *File/Send to/Email recipient*.
You could also save the message you wanted to read in Outlook Express
as a text file in Word or copy and paste the message into a Word
document. If Word is also inaccessible, you could write the text of
your email in Kerzweil then cut and paste it into an email. I'm not
sure if copying the body of a message you want to read into Kerzweil would
I know this is very awkward but, until some solution to the Outlook and Outlook Express/Jaws issue has been sorted, which does not seem to be imminent, this is the best I can think of.
Barry H
Barry H
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy Ingram-Gorban" <user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 9:30 PM Subject: [jaws-uk] Fw: Re E-Mail From Mr M. Schall On Black Screen Settings
----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Archer" <archer4491@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Claire Ingram-Gorban" <user@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 4:48 PM Subject: Re E-Mail From Mr M. Schall On Black Screen Settings
Dear Claire
Here is an Eric-edited version of your 14-07-2004 e-mail from Mr M. Schall:
"The Custom Highlight Options dialog allows you to modify how JAWS will react to Custom Highlights you have assigned for an application. You can change how JAWS will treat Windows Highlights and Custom Highlights and you can delete assigned Custom Highlights, but you cannot assign Custom Highlights from this dialog.
(See link Assigning Custom Highlight Colors. )
You will find the following controls in this dialog:
Highlights ListView
This list contains all of the defined color highlights. To delete an item in this list, select the Delete button or press DELETE on the keyboard.
Color Highlight Group
This series of radio buttons allows you to specify which highlights will be spoken.
Regardless of this radio button selection, all of the custom highlights are displayed in the highlights ListView.
The following options are available:
. Windows Only:
When this is checked, only the Windows Standard Highlights will be treated as highlights. All custom colors defined for the application will be ignored.
. Custom Only:
When this is checked, only the custom highlight colors will be treated as highlights. Windows Standard Highlight, inverse, etc. will be ignored.
. Windows and Custom:
Both Windows Standard Highlights and Custom Highlights defined in this application will be processed as highlights.
Delete Button
This button can be used to delete items in the color ListView.
OK button
This button can be used to save changes and close the dialog. If this dialog was opened by selecting Configuration Manager, Set Options, Custom Highlight Options...,you will be returned to the Configuration Manager. Otherwise, you will be returned to the program from which you selected Custom Highlight Assign.
Cancel button
This button can be used to cancel changes and close the dialog. If this dialog was opened by selecting Configuration Manager, Set Options, Custom Highlight Options..., you will be returned to the Configuration Manager.
Otherwise, you will be returned to the program from which you selected Custom Highlight Assign and a Custom highlight will not be assigned. Previously assigned Custom Highlights will not be altered.
Windows uses highlights to set apart icons and menu items that have the system focus. Text that is selected is also highlighted. The colors used for these highlights are set in Control Panel,Display,Appearance.
These colors can also be set in some applications. JAWS reads the text of highlighted items, and JAWS echoes changes. So when you ARROW through a menu, JAWS reads each menu item to which the highlight (or selection) is moved.
In JAWS for Windows, you can now specify which colors will be recognized as custom highlights for your applications.
You can specify custom highlights based on:
. Foreground Color (text color)
. Background Color
. Both Foreground and Background Colors
Once assigned, text matching the color(s) you have specified will be treated as highlighted by JAWS. For examle, SaySelectedText (INSERT+SHIFT+DOWN ARROW) will read Custom Highlights you have assigned.
To assign Custom Highlight Colors, you first need to identify text with the colors you wish to use. This might be text that is already present on the screen, but is difficult to access with other JAWS features. If text of the colors you wish to use is not already present on the screen, you may need to set the text color in the application.
This is not an option in all applications, but should be possible in most word processing programs.
Text color can be verified with the SayColor keystroke, INSERT+5. Once text with the desired colors is identified, move the focus of the active cursor to this text.
Press INSERT+F2 to bring up the Run JAWS Manager dialog, and select Custom Highlight Assign from the list.
You can also press CTRL+INSERT+H for Custom Highlight Assign. This will bring up the Choose an Option dialog. This dialog lists the following options:
. Set Foreground and Background
. Set Foreground Only
. Set Background Only
Select the desired option and press ENTER. This will bring up the Add Custom Highlight dialog to confirm you want the selected colors to be assigned as a Custom Highlight. You can use the TAB key to move to the Do Not Show This Dialog Again checkbox and press SPACEBAR to bypass this dialog in the future.
Press ENTER for OK, and this will bring up the Custom Highlight Options dialog.
The Custom Highlight Options Dialog allows you to view the Custom Highlights currently assigned within an application, delete Custom Highlights you are no longer using, and specify if JAWS will recognize only Windows highlights, only Custom Highlights, or both. The default is for JAWS to recognize both Windows highlights and Custom Highlights.
You can press ENTER to accept the default settings, and return to the active application.
Text matching the options you selected will then be treated s highlighted within the application.
*** End of the instructions ***
I know this sounds awful but please try to change your settings, maybe it helps.
Best regards,
Michael"
Please note where he says "dialog" I think that means "dialog box".
Regards
Eric
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