Hi Dorothy, Thought I'd clarify the position of the jaws list. I actually set the group up probably about 8 or 9 years ago. The group was originally on yahoogroups but after some time of constant problems from yahoo, it was decided to move the group over to freelists. George came on board a few years back as a moderator and has been so since then. George has a more active role in running the group as he deals with all the administration of it. There are at present, only two moderators, that is George and myself as an owner. I'll just take the opportunity as well to thank George for the work he does, it's very much appreciated. I will also point out Dorothy, that this group is in no way affiliated to Freedom Scientific or to Sight and Sound. As the owner of the group, I have no problem with the discussion of other products so long as it is in a constructive way. I also understand that you have had some issues with this product and it's associated vendor and dealer. So, whilst structured discussion is ok, lets not let it get inflamed. This list is not the place for personal grevances. Steve Hyde-Dryden -----Original Message----- From: jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jaws-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dorothy Ingram-Gorban Sent: 29 January 2006 12:08 To: jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [jaws-uk] Flor . re Steve Dryden etc Actually . I ways told by someone who is often this page and who works for Novenas that George both runs and owns the list. Well whether he does or not I did not know thee was a " Group both be owned by someone else. And obviously many on the list do not know that either.. Re regarding Freedom and the use of the word Formal I made a very formal complaint indeed. It may not have been in writing but in the format easiest of or me and that was on Audi tape and sent to the Directors personally by registered post. You know I when I was sort of plonked on this page by my visiting hardly anyone on the list even knew the Directors were in America. I remember the Email from I think one you or George telling. I wanted a formal answer and I got what I got a phone call from the chap who as I put it was given the thin edge the wedge and that was to tell me . 1 That they had run tests on and found I was right and it was not my fault. 2 I was told that if I upgraded to version 6 it might be even worse!! Now I said are you sure Dr Lee Hamilton got my tape and I reached the place where the buck stops and I was told " you certainly did that Ma'am. I then said well let Dr Lee Hamilton's secretary Grace type a letter from him tome and tell me himself. I am; not so happy that you have to tell me in a phone call after you ask me " are you recording this" Flor the V. I in vulnerable individuals stand also for Vul Flor Jaws is playing up so badly I wil continue on after I have had s break Dorothy enable I Goddaughter ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq