Have been away for a few days and see this topic once more. I know it was most likely pure chance that I had the hard drive Failure after doing a Defrag. Andrew Hodgeson is on holiday for the moment or i would ask him to explain the risks of for example perhaps not finishing the job and,well all I can recall it is to do with Indexes. I think I did let it finish. I have a little sight. I recall it gave percentage readings. In appearance all I could see was what looked little vertical coloured sticks of sea-side rock. It mentioned Graphics all the time and numbers. I realised for the first time that in fact the whole of Windows must be Graphics and numbers. I did not turn anything off, have you told Val if she should turn off the Firewall? Should she? How about AVG Ant-virus should that be turned off?. I am assuming the Disc clean up is straight forward. It is the Defrag and some one said as it took a long time they brought it to a halt. Was that wise? Had I not been through an agony I would assume as George is that Drives are tough things and can stand a lot. I have however in the last three days spoken to four people who all suffered a Drive failure, so why is this? They did not use Jaws they said "it just happened" so not so tough. Remember what Phil Medway said "Treat your hardrive like your Granny's best Crystal Dorothy. ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** jaws-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq