In article <Marcel-1.53-0731090606-0b0pErr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Chris Evans <chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Sun 30 Jul, jb wrote: > > > > Hi John > > > > In message <4e4d72d538john.devine970@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > John Devine <john.devine970@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > In article <4e4d671181Ian_Hamilton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, > > > Ian Hamilton <Ian_Hamilton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > In article <4e4d064592john.devine970@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, John > > > > Devine <john.devine970@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > However it won't shut down from either the keyboard or > > > > > 'Shutdown' from the switcher icon. It says it's > > > > > shutting down and the screen goes blank but the green > > > > > light on the front stays on. > > > > > > > > Any ideas? > > > > > > > [snip] > > > > if you start the machine without using the disc (lots of > > escaped from about 7 secs after reset or poweron till the > > beep) > would I be correct in saying that doing the above doesn't > necessarily stop all programs being loaded during booting? > *con. noboot > Would definitely stop anything being loaded. > > does it then shut down properly? > > > > if so, it is due to something being run on the hdd.. often > > !HID or Aemulor.. or USB mass storage. If any of these, > > please make sure you are running the latest versions. > > > > John > > > Chris Evans Thank you, gentlemen, for your help. It turned out that removing the '~~USBHID' directory in 'PreDesk' solved the problem. A bit more rummaging revealed that a new version of !HID which contains at least one updated module cured the problem. And Chris's 'Config. noboot' also worked. Again, many thanks. JD -- John Devine Bolton Lancashire UK e-mail: john.devine970@xxxxxxxxxxxx --- To alter your preferences or leave the group, visit //www.freelists.org/list/iyonix-support Other info via //www.freelists.org/webpage/iyonix-support