[isapros] Re: ISA Server Slow FBA Login Issue and Solution Impact on SCCM Agent

  • From: "Jerry Young" <jerrygyoungii@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 13:23:15 -0400

Would using separate certificates work?  One for the FBA, and another for
the Mutual TLS?

Is there an internal Enterprise CA?  I put one in place at my current client
(they were having issues with IAS) and computer/user automatic enrollment is
enabled.  All servers receive a cert for client/server authentication with a
common name of <computername>.<domain>.  Would that allow you to publish a
separate certificate (with a different common name) on the FBA listener that
only had server authentication?

On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 8:24 AM, Jason Jones
<Jason.Jones@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

>  Hi All,
>
>
>
> An issue exits with ISA2k6 FBA as follows:
>
>
>
> *"Client logon is slow and server certificates used for Web publishing are
> configured with the default purpose settings "Server Authentication" and
> "Client Authentication"*
>
> Issue: When Windows Server 2003 detects the default purpose setting of
> "Client Authentication", the operating system attempts to perform TLS with
> mutual authentication to the domain controller. The mutual authentication
> process requires ISA Server to have access to the private key of the server
> certificate with the "Client Authentication" setting enabled, and ISA Server
> does not (and should not) have this access.
>
> Solution: Ensure that all server certificates do not have the default
> "Client Authentication" purpose enabled. You can disable this setting on the
> property pages of the relevant server certificate as follows…"
>
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc514301.aspx
>
>
>
> Based upon this solution (which works very well!) I have come up against a
> scenario where we have a customer that needs to "manage" ISA using System
> Centre Configuration Manager (SCCM) but this requires a certificate to be
> installed that supports the Client Authentication purpose in order to meet
> the SCCM mutual TLS design.
>
>
>
> So, if the client auth purpose is enabled, FBA login is painfully slow; if
> the client auth purpose is disabled, the SCCM agent cannot provide mutual
> TLS and subsequently cannot communicate with the SCCM server.
>
>
>
> Can anyone think of a way around this?
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> JJ
>
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Cordially yours,
Jerry G. Young II
Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer

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