YAY! I got a "mail loop" response from their server from a *really old* posting: <inserted> T'is true. With intentionally rare exceptions, hosts within MS can't reach the outside except via Web Proxy or FWC requests. The do get a default gateway, but internal routers are "'blackhole"; that is, if they see a packet for a non-local network, they pass it to the bitbucket which has a large hole in the bottom. </inserted> Once they trashed that posting, I now seem to get the list mail... We had better service from the old listserv, but I understand the $$ factor... ________________________________ From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Steve Moffat Sent: Sat 9/2/2006 6:41 AM To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isapros] Re: GFI auto-updates All OK here. There is however an issue with the anti phishing updates that I have reported and that GFI are working on..... S -----Original Message----- From: isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isapros-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Harrison Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 4:01 PM To: isapros@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isapros] GFI auto-updates If anyone is seeing emails from your ME or MS that updates are failing, it's probably not your fault. They have several hosts that aren't responding to connections. I've sent them a list of failing hosts, but haven't heard back yet. ------------------------------------------------------- Jim Harrison MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/ http://isatools.org <http://isatools.org/> Read the help / books / articles! ------------------------------------------------------- All mail to and from this domain is GFI-scanned. All mail to and from this domain is GFI-scanned.