RTM timeframe leaked. The TMG is looking very good in EBS now, BTW. Can tell someone has been hard at work. Bink.nu | Bink exclusive: Interview about Windows Essential Business Server - Bink.nu: http://bink.nu/news/bink-exclusive-interview-about-windows-essential-bus iness-server.aspx Question: Where were the product teams of WEBS and SBS on the Tech Ed conference in June? Answer: Russ points out that there was a session for WEBS and a session for SBS at the conference. When I point out that both sessions were not by the product teams and that there was no way to meet with experts from Microsoft, he admits that because of restricted resources his team has chosen to focus on the upcoming Worldwide Partner Conference in Houston in July. WEBS and SBS will be prominently present at that conference. Russ provided a little scoop for bink.nu by pointing out that he expects that WEBS will already be RTM in November when the Tech Ed EMEA IT Professionals will be held in Barcelona. This means that all products in the suite that are currently still in beta will be finalized by the time. This also means that Microsoft has serious plans to provide us with released version of Forefront Threat Management Gateway, SQL Server 2008 and Forefront Security for Exchange before November. thanks, Amy Babinchak Harbor Computer Services |(248) 850-8616 Tech Blog http://securesmb.harborcomputerservices.net Client Blog http://smalltechnotes.blogspot.com Website http://www.harborcomputerservices.net Buy My House http://tinyurl.com/5gb5n8