No; that would break too many other things. Here's the problem: apps using the FW client generally depend on ISA to resolve names for them. You can control that on a per-app basis by setting the "NameResolution" property for that app to "L" in the "Application Settings" tab of the "Firewall Clients" part of "Client Configuration" in ISA management. Bear in mind that you'll be forcing the MSNIM app to act like a SecureNAT client where name resolution is concerned, so it'll have to be able to resolve external names by itself. 1. Drill down to "Client Configuration", "Firewall client" properties, "Application Settings" 2. click "Add" and enter "msmsgs" in the "Application" field" 3. select "NameResolution" in the "Key" dropdown list 4. select "L" in the "Value" dropdown list 5. click "Apply" and "OK" to apply the changes and close the dialog 6. go to each FW client and force a refresh I like to make this setting for all apps, because I prefer not to use ISA Firewall and Web Proxy services' DNS proxy functionality. These articles may help clear it up a bit for you: http://isaserver.org/pages/articles.asp?art=62 http://isaserver.org/pages/articles.asp?art=61 http://isaserver.org/pages/articles.asp?art=60 Jim Harrison MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG http://isaserver.org/harrison http://jalojash.org/isatools Read the books! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Qusai Ali AL Haddad" <qusai@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 10:02 AM Subject: [isalist] Re: isa and IM http://www.ISAserver.org soo what can i do .. uninstall the FW or what ? regrds Qusai ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Harrison" <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 4:43 PM Subject: [isalist] Re: isa and IM > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > Hi Quasi, > > Do you have the FW client installed on those hosts? > That can affect internal name resolution since ISA does that for FW and Web Proxy clients. > > Jim Harrison > MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG > http://isaserver.org/authors/harrison > http://jalojash.org/isatools > Read the books! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Qusai Ali AL Haddad > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > Sent: Friday, August 16, 2002 10:57 PM > Subject: [isalist] isa and IM > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > > dear sir > i have a problem with my local IM for exchange 2000 > in the IM there is 2 one for microsoft passport and the other for our local exchnage IM server > when the client wants to access the IM for MSN is ok and working fine ,,, but when they want to > access the 2nd one which is for the exchange server there system will stop and nothings will > happen > > can you tell me what is the problem ... this problem only happened when i install ISA server.. > > Regards > > Qusai Ali AL Haddad > Network Engineer > Erad International WLL > Tel: +973 230245 > Fax: +973 263258 > Mobile +973 9829560 > Manama- Kingdom of Bahrain > Emails > Personal:qusai@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Work: haddadq@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > MSN: qusai@xxxxxxx > ------------------------------------------------------ > You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send a blank email to $subst('Email.Unsub') > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: qusai@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send a blank email to $subst('Email.Unsub') ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send a blank email to $subst('Email.Unsub')