[isalist] Re: configure oma with isa

  • From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 09:48:24 -0500

There are no drawbacks to using basic auth. Users can still
pre-authenticate at the ISA firewall and the ISA firewall can forward
those basic credentials to the published Web site, so that
unauthenticated users never get near the Web site itself.
 
FBA adds a couple of features, such as attachment management and logging
the users off when he leaves the site, but nother earth shaking.
 
Tom
 
Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
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        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ara Avvali
        Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 12:36 PM
        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [isalist] Re: configure oma with isa
        
        

        Tom,

        What is the draw back of using basic authentication with SSL? I
think is not getting the fancy login screen, plus users are directly
login to mail server instead logging to ISA. Is that correct?

        Now that I have changed the authentication method on ISA rule
from FBA to basic, can I enable it in exchange box? Or does it cause
problem again with OMA?

        Appreciated your help 

         

        
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        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
        Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 10:03 AM
        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [isalist] Re: configure oma with isa

         

        Yes, you can't use FBA on the OWA listener.

         

        It will work with ISA 2006 because ISA 2006 will detect the
user-agent header and fall back to basic when it sees that you're using
a Windows Mobile device.

         

        Tom

         

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                From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ara Avvali
                Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 11:50 AM
                To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                Subject: [isalist] Re: configure oma with isa

                Hi Tom,

                 

                I exported the cert from mail server and ran it into
device. It went to trusted root and is not complaining about cert
anymore. But it doesn't take my password and login screen keeps coming
back. I believe this is related to FBA and SSL being enabled on rule
cause I only have a single ip address.

                 

                
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                From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
                Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 9:41 AM
                To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                Subject: [isalist] Re: configure oma with isa

                 

                Remember you need to add the CA cert to the Windows
Mobile client.

                 

                Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
                Site: www.isaserver.org <http://www.isaserver.org/> 
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                        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ara Avvali
                        Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 11:17 AM
                        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                        Subject: [isalist] Re: configure oma with isa

                        Hi Mark,

                        Yes I see the cert warning when I go to site.
Also I believe it is supported as it is posted here
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/pocketpc/phone/default.mspx it is
the T-Mobile version

                         

                        
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                        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark Morgan
                        Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 6:47 PM
                        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                        Subject: RE: [isalist] Re: configure oma with
isa

                         

                        Sounds like there is something wrong with your
cert, go to my oma site with a PC when the cert warning comes up click
view, do the same with yours and compare the two. You may need to
reissue a cert. also is your phone a supported device?? if not you may
need to enable non-supported devices in exchange.

                        
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                        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of
Ara Avvali
                        Sent: Thu 04/27/2006 18:11
                        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                        Subject: [isalist] Re: configure oma with isa

                        http://www.ISAserver.org 
        
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                        Yes I did. As you said, I made copies of
certificate into both trusted 
                        root of ISA and exchange. Still the problem is
the device says "the 
                        security certificate on the server is invalid"
and support code is 
                        0x80072F0D 
                        Thanks 

                         

                        -----Original Message----- 
                        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
                        On Behalf Of Mark Morgan 
                        Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 6:05 PM 
                        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                        Subject: [isalist] Re: configure oma with isa 

                        http://www.ISAserver.org 
        
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                        did u get the fba page from my oma site? 

                        -----Original Message----- 
                        From: "isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"
<isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on 
                        behalf of "Ara Avvali"
<Ara.Avvali@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
                        Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 5:51 PM 
                        To: "isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"
<isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
                        Subject: [isalist] Re: configure oma with isa 

                         

                        http://www.ISAserver.org 
        
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                        Hi 
                        Yes they are both in trusted root. I do have the
Tom's book and read it 
                        :) LOL 

                        -----Original Message----- 
                        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
                        On Behalf Of Mark Morgan 
                        Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 5:34 PM 
                        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                        Subject: [isalist] Re: configure oma with isa 

                        http://www.ISAserver.org 
        
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                        I am using a cert generated by my own server,
you DO NOT need to buy a 
                        cert to make it work. do you have the cert in
the trusted root 
                        certification authorities store of isa and
exchange??? did you read 
                        tom's book to set this up (if not you need to)??


                         

                          
                        -----Original Message----- 
                        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                        [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf
Of Ara Avvali 
                        Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 5:22 PM 
                        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                        Subject: [isalist] Re: configure oma with isa 

                         

                        http://www.ISAserver.org 
        
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                        I understand that. But even importing my cert
into device didn't help 
                        and it keeps saying cert is invalid. I guess I
have to tell the they 
                        need to buy a cert. any idea which on is
cheaper? 

                        -----Original Message----- 
                        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
                        On Behalf Of Mark Morgan 
                        Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 5:17 PM 
                        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                        Subject: [isalist] Re: configure oma with isa 

                        http://www.ISAserver.org 
        
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                        the strange login you are getting is because you
are not using ssl, 
                        require ssl on the oma website. when I login to
my oma I get an FBA 
                        login screen (treo 650). it is not a good idea
to use http because your 
                        password will be sent over the internet in plain
text!!! 

                         

                        -----Original Message----- 
                        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                        [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf
Of Ara Avvali 
                        Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 4:42 PM 
                        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                        Subject: [isalist] Re: configure oma with isa 

                         

                        http://www.ISAserver.org 
        
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                        Hi 
                        FBA is enabled on ISA only. Back exchange is not
enabled. I imported my 
                        own certificate to phone, under personal. But
when I try to connect 
                        using https it still says certificate is invalid
and needs to be fixed. 
                        The device is a T-Mobile MDA. Internal network
is ava.local. External is 
                        bossaudio.com. I have created the host file on
ISA so mail.bossaudio.com 
                        goes to internal IP address. OWA with my own
certificate works perfectly 
                        fine only oma is giving headaches. 

                        I appreciate your help 

                        -----Original Message----- 
                        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
                        On Behalf Of Mark Morgan 
                        Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 4:31 PM 
                        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                        Subject: [isalist] Re: configure oma with isa 

                        http://www.ISAserver.org 
        
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                        checkout the reply I posted to you on
ExchangeList, is FBA enabled at 
                        the isa, exchsrv, or both, if you are using FBA
with isa you need to 
                        enable at the isa server and disable at
exchange. I have https setup in 
                        the same .local scenario you have and it works
like a champ, you need to 
                        do some dns tweaking and issue the cert to the
public domain name. oh 
                        can you clarify complaining?? 

                         

                        -----Original Message----- 
                        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                        [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf
Of Ara Avvali 
                        Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 4:14 PM 
                        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                        Subject: [isalist] Re: configure oma with isa 

                         

                        http://www.ISAserver.org 
        
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                        I tried with https with my personal cert and it
kept complaining. Then I 
                        imported the cert using the tool. Still no go. 
                        Yes I am using FBA for owa 
                        Any ideas? Appreciated 

                        -----Original Message----- 
                        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
                        On Behalf Of Mark Morgan 
                        Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 4:10 PM 
                        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                        Subject: [isalist] Re: configure oma with isa 

                        http://www.ISAserver.org 
        
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                        you should be using https, and it should ask for
a password to 
                        authenticate to the exchange mail box. are you
using FBA??? 

                        -----Original Message----- 
                        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                        [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf
Of Ara Avvali 
                        Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 3:56 PM 
                        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                        Subject: [isalist] Re: configure oma with isa 

                         

                        http://www.ISAserver.org 
        
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                        Hi 
                        Thanks for helping me. 
                        No. when I try to connect from internal network
using a browser, 
                        http://mail/oma it works fine, but when I try
behind isa it keeps 
                        popping up asking for password 

                        -----Original Message----- 
                        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
                        On Behalf Of Mark Morgan 
                        Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 3:51 PM 
                        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                        Subject: [isalist] Re: configure oma with isa 

                        http://www.ISAserver.org 
        
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                        were does it ask for a password in the
publishing wizard, when you try 
                        to connect????? 

                        -----Original Message----- 
                        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                        [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf
Of Ara Avvali 
                        Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 3:36 PM 
                        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                        Subject: [isalist] Re: configure oma with isa 

                         

                        http://www.ISAserver.org 
        
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                        Hi 
                        I tried but it keeps coming back asking for
password. I believe it is 
                        the authentication method. 

                        -----Original Message----- 
                        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
                        On Behalf Of Young, Gerald G 
                        Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 3:29 PM 
                        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
                        Subject: [isalist] Re: configure oma with isa 

                        http://www.ISAserver.org 
        
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                        Try running through the Publish Mail Server
Wizard. 

                        Cordially yours, 
                        Jerry G. Young II +From Blackberry+ 
                          MCSE (4.0/W2K) 
                        Atlanta EES Implementation Team Lead 
                        HHS Engineering 
                        Unisys 
                          
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                        THIS COMMUNICATION MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL
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                        -----Original Message----- 
                        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
                        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
                        Sent: Thu Apr 27 18:21:29 2006 
                        Subject: [isalist] configure oma with isa 

                        Hello everyone 

                        Sorry for asking stupid question but I can't
find the link on website 
                        for territorial on publishing exchange oma
behind isa 2004 

                        Would kindly anyone post it here? 

                        Appreciated 

        
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