Hi Stephen, You still alive? I figure you must be working your tail off! :-) I got a call from Ari F. at Microsoft yesterday and he was wondering if ISAServer.org would be interested in hosting a ISA Server conference? I told him that we had talked about this at one time, and he said that Microsoft would help underwrite it. What do you think? Thanks! Tom www.isaserver.org/shinder <http://www.isaserver.org/shinder>