What, you don't like their Feng Shui graphics? I guess you won't like this
link to their web design services either then:
http://www.dallas.net/~shinder/TACTEAM/webdesign.htm
(Sorry, had to!)
t :-p
----- "I may disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
http://www.ISAserver.org
I still say you need to change the colors.
John T eServices For You
-----Original Message----- From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 7:34 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] Re: Think outside the GUI challenge #1
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Here's some entertaining stories for you when you get bored:
http://frontpage.dallas.net/~shinder/coplite/billyjoebob1.htm
Thomas W Shinder, M.D. Site: www.isaserver.org Blog: http://spaces.msn.com/members/drisa/ Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 MVP -- ISA Firewalls **Who is John Galt?**
> -----Original Message----- > From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 9:14 PM > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > Subject: [isalist] Re: Think outside the GUI challenge #1 > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > You've got a daughter? Any pictures? :-p > t > > ----- > "I may disapprove of what you say, > but I will defend to the death your > right to say it." > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 6:25 PM > Subject: [isalist] Re: Think outside the GUI challenge #1 > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > Ha! You just missed her. We sent her back today. She told us > she's giving up > the teacher's life to start working again and is relocating > to some island > off San Diego. Will be a nice place to visit. > > Thomas W Shinder, M.D. > Site: www.isaserver.org > Blog: http://spaces.msn.com/members/drisa/ > Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 > MVP -- ISA Firewalls > **Who is John Galt?** > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jim Harrison [mailto:Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] > > Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 8:19 PM > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Think outside the GUI challenge #1 > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > > Now you bees playing in my old neighborhood (Tom, get your > > daughter in on this). Let's not confuse "Hayes" with "modem". > > > > A "modem" (Modulator / Demodulator) is nothing more than a > > signal translation device, regardless of its intended > > application (DSL, dial-up access, AM radio, etc.) > > - In the MODulation function, it uses a baseband signal (CAT5 > > in this case) to modify one or more aspects (phase, > > frequency, amplitude) of a carrier signal in a predefined manner. > > - In the DEModulator function, it performs a reverse process, > > extracting the baseband signal from the modified carrier signal. > > > > Here's a reasonably decent discussion on how DSL signals are > > propagated: > > http://computer.howstuffworks.com/dsl4.htm > > > > It's not "audible" audio, but it is audio, nonetheless... > > > > -------------------------------------------- > > Jim Harrison > > MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG > > http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/ > > http://isatools.org > > Read the help / books / articles! > > -------------------------------------------- > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 5:47 PM > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Think outside the GUI challenge #1 > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > > It depends on your definition of "audio." If you mean that > > the signaling is > > based on square waves of a fixed high and low amplitude at a > > particular > > frequency being interpreted as a digital signal, then OK. > > But if you are > > defining DSL's"audio" nature as the modulation of > > electromagnetic signals > > into true "sound" (which is what a modem does) by creating > signals of > > amplitude, frequency and phase represented in the form of > the typical > > trigonometric sine and cosine wave (analog), then I must > respectfully > > disagree. > > > > t > > > > > > ----- > > "I may disapprove of what you say, > > but I will defend to the death your > > right to say it." > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jim Harrison" <Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 4:55 PM > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Think outside the GUI challenge #1 > > > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > > Ok, smarty-pants. > > The CAT5 electrical signals that represent the Ethernet > > traffic are used to > > modulate the audio between the modem & the DSLAM. > > > > DSL is by nature, audio. > > > > -------------------------------------------- > > Jim Harrison > > MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG > > http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/ > > http://isatools.org > > Read the help / books / articles! > > -------------------------------------------- > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 4:19 PM > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Think outside the GUI challenge #1 > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > > I'm going to pretend like I never read that. Ethernet > > signals are used to > > modulate audio signals? I'll have a puff, please. > > > > t > > > > ----- > > "I may disapprove of what you say, > > but I will defend to the death your > > right to say it." > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jim Harrison" <Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 3:41 PM > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Think outside the GUI challenge #1 > > > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > > Actually, the ones that bridge Ethernet to telco are modems. > > They use the Ethernet signals to modulate the audio signals > > carried to the > > DSLAM. > > > > -------------------------------------------- > > Jim Harrison > > MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG > > http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/ > > http://isatools.org > > Read the help / books / articles! > > -------------------------------------------- > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 1:13 PM > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Think outside the GUI challenge #1 > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > > Just like the marketroids call them "modems." There ain't a > > BIT o' analog > > modulation a'goin on... > > > > ----- > > "I may disapprove of what you say, > > but I will defend to the death your > > right to say it." > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jim Harrison" <Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 12:48 PM > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Think outside the GUI challenge #1 > > > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > > ..but of course you have, oh Diva of SBS fame. > > > > The marketroids call them "routers". > > Sometimes they're part of the modem; sometimes not. > > Sometimes they're configured for NAT, sometimes not. > > When it's not NAT-ing, it's acting like a hub (bridge). > > > > In this case, the only interesting part is that the device is > > configured as > > a bridge. > > > > -------------------------------------------- > > Jim Harrison > > MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG > > http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/ > > http://isatools.org > > Read the help / books / articles! > > -------------------------------------------- > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Amy Babinchak [mailto:amy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 12:37 PM > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Think outside the GUI challenge #1 > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > > What's a DSL bridge? I've never run into one of those in > > small business > > land. > > > > Amy > > > > Harbor Computer Services > > Small Business Computer Specialists > > > > Client Blog: http://smalltechnotes.blogspot.com/ > > Tech Blog: http://isainsbs.blogspot.com/ > > Website: http://www.harborcomputerservices.net/ > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jim Harrison [mailto:Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] > > Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 3:10 PM > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Think outside the GUI challenge #1 > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > > Oooo..k. > > > > Jeff gets step #1. > > For those of us not "netsh-aware", the full command would be > > (assuming you > > named the external interface "north"): > > - netsh int ip add addr north 10.0.0.1 255.255.255.0 > > > > Alexandre gets "most sickliest response". :-p > > > > To continue the challenge, answer the following questions: > > 1. why doesn't it work yet? > > 2. what non-GUI step must be taken to make it work? > > > > ..remember; ISA policies are not interesting yet. > > > > -------------------------------------------- > > Jim Harrison > > MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG > > http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/ > > http://isatools.org > > Read the help / books / articles! > > -------------------------------------------- > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Alexandre Gauthier [mailto:gauthiera@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > > Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 12:01 PM > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Think outside the GUI challenge #1 > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > > Your answer makes me moist in my special places. > > > > -----Message d'origine----- > > De : Bunting, Jeff [mailto:BUNTING@xxxxxxxxxxxx] > > Envoyé : 28 décembre 2005 14:58 > > À : [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > > Objet : [isalist] Re: Think outside the GUI challenge #1 > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > > how about with > > netsh interface ip add address > > > > Jeff > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jim Harrison [mailto:Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] > > Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 2:29 PM > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Think outside the GUI challenge #1 > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > > Remember; this is the "out of the GUI" challenge. > > How would you accomplish item 1 from the command line? > > > > Also, it still won't work (incomplete). > > What other non-ISA, non-GUI steps must be taken? > > > > #2 answered correctly. > > > > -------------------------------------------- > > Jim Harrison > > MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG > > http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/ > > http://isatools.org > > Read the help / books / articles! > > -------------------------------------------- > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Roy Tsao [mailto:roy_tsao@xxxxxxxxxxxx] > > Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 11:07 AM > > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > > Subject: [isalist] Re: Think outside the GUI challenge #1 > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > > > > 1) Bind a additional static IP 10.0.0.X/24 to ISA External Interface > > 2) In case of dynamic IP, static IP can't assign as per 1) > > > > > > > Merry Xmas & Happy New Year! > > > > > > In the spirit of giving, here's a "think outside the GUI" > challenge > > for > > > you. > > > > > > Scenario: > > > - ISA is connected directly to the Internet via a "manageable" DSL > > > bridge > > > - ISA uses 123.123.123.123/24 static external IP; DG = > 123.123.123.1 > > > - Internal LAN uses 10.9.8.x/24 > > > - DSL bridge has unchangeable 10.0.0.2/24 internal IP > > > - DSL bridge offers web-based management on that internal IP > > > > > > Internet > > > | > > > DSL Bridge > > > |- 10.0.0.2/24 > > > |- 123.123.123.123/24 > > > ISA > > > |- 10.9.8.x/24 > > > LAN > > > > > > Note: > > > - The DSL bridge internal IP is irrelevant to normal > > Internet access. > > > Because it's operating in "bridge" (as opposed to NAT) mode, it's > > > effectively transparent to the ISA for Internet traffic. > > > > > > Challenges: > > > 1. Allow either ISA-local or ISA-internal to access the DSL > > bridge web > > > interface 2. Explain why the correct solution is impossible to > > > implement if the ISP provides a dynamic IP. > > > > > > Hint: > > > - The core of the solution has nothing whatsoever to do with ISA > > itself. > > > > > > -------------------------------------------- > > > Jim Harrison > > > MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG > > > http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison/ > > > http://isatools.org > > > Read the help / books / articles! > > > -------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > All mail to and from this domain is GFI-scanned. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist > > ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp > > ISA Server FAQ: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > Visit TechGenix.com for more information about our other sites: > > http://www.techgenix.com > > 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