The last time I checked, no game servers shipped with SBS2K. All services that shipped with that product were tested and verified to work with ISA when they and ISA were properly configured. It's a common misconception that "because I want it" is what MS should provide. ISA was designed as an enterprise firewall; not a gaming platform. Jim Harrison MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison http://isatools.org Read the help, books and articles! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tiago de Aviz" <Tiago@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 11:23 Subject: [isalist] RES: Re: RES: RE: RES: Re: RES: RE: RES: RE: RES: RE: Spooky filter problem! http://www.ISAserver.org No, i'm stuck in "I can't do it any other way" mode. All services that i run (http, SMTP, POP3) must be published? I can't run, for an instance, IIS locally on my ISA? If that's true, then ISA shouldn't be included on Small Business Server 2000! All services run on the same machine (although it can be run on another machine, but most setups are made on a single machine). Tiago de Aviz ----------------------- tiago@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.softsell.com.br ----------------------- -----Mensagem original----- De: Jim Harrison [mailto:jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Enviada em: segunda-feira, 10 de fevereiro de 2003 15:03 Para: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Assunto: [isalist] Re: RES: RE: RES: Re: RES: RE: RES: RE: RES: RE: Spooky filter problem! http://www.ISAserver.org I gave you a viable solution; you're just stuck in "I wanna do it my way" mode. ISA wasn't designed to do what you want. Jim Harrison MCP(NT4, W2K), A+, Network+, PCG http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver http://isaserver.org/Jim_Harrison http://isatools.org Read the help, books and articles! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tiago de Aviz" <Tiago@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 10:49 Subject: [isalist] RES: RE: RES: Re: RES: RE: RES: RE: RES: RE: Spooky filter problem! http://www.ISAserver.org Okay, i give up. I'll solve this on my own. I didn't want to violate anything, bother no one... But it is just too difficult to ask something and get the answer i need. It's so simple! All replies i got questioned my infrastructure, the way i built... i know what i'm doing. It's not a critical application. I can't afford another Box just to put a game Server inside. Tiago de Aviz ----------------------- tiago@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.softsell.com.br ----------------------- -----Mensagem original----- De: John Tolmachoff [mailto:isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Enviada em: segunda-feira, 10 de fevereiro de 2003 14:30 Para: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Assunto: [isalist] RE: RES: Re: RES: RE: RES: RE: RES: RE: Spooky filter problem! http://www.ISAserver.org > Okay Jim, but think with me: But you are missing the point. A firewall to protect something. Game servers on programmed, built and designed to work, which means around firewalls. You are trying to violate one of the most basic security principles there is, and to be asking experts for a solution to violate that is akin to asking a fireman on how to start a fire. John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA IT Manager, Network Engineer RelianceSoft, Inc. 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