This is a bit dodge, but I have decided to give up on hoping you can get the lines to failover nicely, and my company sure doesnt want to fork out on anything new, so this is the plan I have come up with. I am yet to put it into practice Basically, run two firewalls in an array, and install the firewall client on all client machines, so that if one fails, you can stop the services and everyone will failover. To avoid having to intervene manually, install a program on each firewall that lets you set up a monitor on each to ping an address ( I would suggest two different addresses, in case one goes down). At the moment I have Webtrends firewall suite, which can do this, though I am hoping to find something a bit lighter. If the monitor returns a failure, have it run a script which shuts down the service on the relevant ISA server ( I am no programmer, so I would just use rcmd.exe from the resource kit). Then have the monitor wait until it can successfully ping, before it runs a script to restart. I know this is not very elegant, but I would welcome anyones opinion on this. Regards, John Burridge Network Admin. mloop -----Original Message----- From: Art DeKneef [mailto:artdekneef@xxxxxxx] Sent: 30 October 2001 16:53 To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] Redundancy with ISA http://www.ISAserver.org This topic has somewhat been discussed in the list and was wondering what others were doing about it. Meaning, if we have two external lines, ISA can not automaticallly sense the failure in one line and switch over to the other line. This has been discussed several times with the answer being you can't without extra equipment and cost. Something small businesses may not be willing to spend until the pain gets real bad. So the question is, how are others providing redundancy and do you switch lines or just wait out the down time? Besides switching the external lines on the ISA box and reconfiguring the external NIC and rebooting, has anyone come up with a more elegant, read that as quick and cheap, solution? Reason for the inquiry, a customer does a lot of transactions online and the line went down for over 6 hours the other day causing them alot of anxious moments. Thanks Art DeKneef Avanti Computers ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: jburridge@xxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send a blank email to $subst('Email.Unsub')