This is my preliminary outline for next Thursday's talk. Suggestions, as always, are welcome. http://www.tacteam.net/isaserverorg/betterisa/Better_Firewall_techtarget _files/frame.htm You can register for the talk (it's free) at: http://searchwin2000.techtarget.com/onlineEvents/0,289675,sid1,00.html Thanks!! Tom www.isaserver.org/shinder