RE: Pop Ups/Under Advertisements

  • From: "Eddie Kwong" <eddiek@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 12:49:27 -0500

I fully agree with you.

In my environment, there are a lot of internal web applications that actually 
has proper/useful/meaningful popup that one does not want to get rid of.  

Also, my company believed (and I fully agreed) that even thought the technical 
people has the skill set to enable/disable this type of environment, it will be 
the task of the corporation in coming out with policy that address these type 
of issues. 

Eddie

-----Original Message-----
From: Edward Sullivan [mailto:esullivan@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 12:29 PM
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Here are the best free client-side options:

http://www.proxomitron.org/ - Proxomitron
http://www.synergeticsoft.com/ - Privacy Defender 7.03

However, every user that I have either recommended these to or installed these 
for has eventually complained about and then disabled the popup blocking 
feature because it interferes with necessary friendly pop-ups. Which leads me 
to my own eventual (personal) conclusion, which is that popups must be lived 
with - for now.

Ed Sullivan
Director of Information Services
esullivan@xxxxxxx < mailto:esullivan@xxxxxxx>
KMA Direct Communications
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-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Crain [mailto:DanC@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 11:20 AM
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That's a good opinion.
It would have to be a user level thing, I would think.

-----Original Message-----
From: Edward Sullivan [mailto:esullivan@xxxxxxx] 
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 11:48 AM
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Hmm...personally I think this is too iron-clad of an approach. For
example, surf to MSNBC, CNN, Buy.com, or Amazon and friendly pop-ups
appear. Make a transaction on any of these sites and pop-ups appear to
verify credit card validation codes, shipping info, etc. Making a
purchase at Dell.com would be impossible if pop-ups were blocked. Does
this mean that you want to institute a policy that your users cannot
make any online purchases while at the workplace?

Obviously, something that supports rule-based management would be
optimal, but from experience I can tell you that sifting through 10,000+
spam messages per week to confirm that my GFI MailEssentials rules are
working is time consuming enough - I wouldn't want to add another level
of checking popup rulesets with a theoretical popup server-side product.

Course, that is my take on this. I am interested to see what others
think on this issue...


-----Original Message-----
From: Friese, Casey [mailto:cfriese@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 10:31 AM
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I share the same feeling and if a server side app exist for this
purpose, there should be a means to only apply it to certain users or
through group policies.

-----Original Message-----
From: David V. Dellanno [mailto:ddellanno@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 11:24 AM
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My feelings that blocking ads needs to be centrally controlled

-----Original Message-----
From: Edward Sullivan [mailto:esullivan@xxxxxxx] 
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 11:03 AM
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There are plenty of free client-side options, Proxomitron, Privacy
Defender 7.0...however from my experience blocking pop-ups is bad news.
One VP here was very angry when an online order was screwed up due to
pop-up blocking software blocking the final transaction process.

Is blocking pop-ups best done at the client level (where the user has
control) or server-side? Anyone else have any feedback on this?

Ed Sullivan
Director of Information Services
esullivan@xxxxxxx < mailto:esullivan@xxxxxxx>
KMA Direct Communications
Confidential and Proprietary 



-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Crain [mailto:DanC@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 9:06 AM
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Subject: [isalist] Pop Ups/Under Advertisements


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Recommendations software to stop these at the ISA Server?
Are there any?

Any help would be great.
Thanks 

Daniel A. Crain
Systems Administrator
Dean, Ringers, Morgan & Lawton, P.A.
201 E. Pine Street, Suite 1200
Orlando, FL 32801
(407)422-4310
DanC@xxxxxxxxxxxx



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