Hi Paul, Thanks for being a calming influence and talking me down so I don't jump :-) Ha! I'll let you know about that small vendors cash. We'll grab his wallet and get it! :-)) Tom ________________________________ From: Paul Crisp [mailto:PCrisp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 9:32 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: OT: Moron Analyst quote of the month http://www.ISAserver.org Now now Tom, calm down don't go doing anything stupid If you find it, publish it we'll all break his small vendors HTTP cache :-) Paul Crisp Snr Network Support Analyst ________________________________ From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 3:04 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] OT: Moron Analyst quote of the month Importance: High http://www.ISAserver.org However, RedMonk LLC analyst James Governor expressed concern today that Microsoft's integration strategy isn't the best way to approach security. "I really have some issues with so much interdependency," Governor said. "You want to be able to secure each piece of infrastructure independently. ISA Server has been losing momentum recently, he said, with fewer OEMs agreeing to ship the software with their products. "There are a ton of small application vendors that have come up with good propositions for HTTP caching, for example, so if Microsoft really wants to get wide adoption, it needs help [from OEMs]," Governor said." Boy, you can tell this guy is a real "firewall expert". What does the ISA 2004 firewall have to do with "HTTP caching"? I wonder if he has an "open port" button that he uses to access his AOL account? :-) Tom ------------------------------------------------------ List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp ISA Server FAQ: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ ------------------------------------------------------ Other Internet Software Marketing Sites: World of Windows Networking: http://www.windowsnetworking.com Leading Network Software Directory: http://www.serverfiles.com No.1 Exchange Server Resource Site: http://www.msexchange.org Windows Security Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/ Network Security Library: http://www.secinf.net/ Windows 2000/NT Fax Solutions: http://www.ntfaxfaq.com ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: pcrisp@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe visit http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist ------------------------------------------------------ List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp ISA Server FAQ: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ ------------------------------------------------------ Other Internet Software Marketing Sites: World of Windows Networking: http://www.windowsnetworking.com Leading Network Software Directory: http://www.serverfiles.com No.1 Exchange Server Resource Site: http://www.msexchange.org Windows Security Resource Site: http://www.windowsecurity.com/ Network Security Library: http://www.secinf.net/ Windows 2000/NT Fax Solutions: http://www.ntfaxfaq.com ------------------------------------------------------ You are currently subscribed to this ISAserver.org Discussion List as: tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe visit http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist