RE: OT: DNS Question

  • From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 11:22:30 -0500

Hi Shawn,

Good points. And then there's the habit of the Windows DNS client to
suppress addresses that don't work for X number of minutes, even if
there was a momentary connection problem.

Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Quillman Shawn (RBNA/CSA1) * 
> [mailto:Shawn.Quillman@xxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 11:09 AM
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> Subject: [isalist] RE: OT: DNS Question
> 
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> 
> Keep in mind that in general DNS round-robin gets flaky at the
> application level since it's up to the application to determine how it
> handles resolution responses.  If the app don't know 
> round-robin you'll
> get incosistent results at best, and you know how many 
> developers are in
> tune with networking theories and security...
> 
> For example:
> host1.blah.com.       IN      A       192.168.0.1
> host1.blah.com.       IN      A       192.168.0.2
> 
> Query 1 for host1.blah.com returns:
> 192.168.0.1,192.168.0.2
> 
> Query 2 for host1.blah.com returns:
> 192.168.0.2,192.168.0.1
> 
> Query 3 returns
> 192.168.0.1,192.168.0.2
> 
> Etc.
> 
> Say 192.168.0.1 goes down, a client's resolver caches that 
> response, AND
> the app don't know round-robin.  Regardless of the state of 
> 192.168.0.2,
> the client's hosed until either 192.168.0.1 comes back up or 
> the TTL on
> the record lapses.
> 
> RR has certainly been around long enough.  In most cases, in my
> experience anyway, it's only been useful to make sure that at 
> least some
> people don't lose access.  I'd agree that you're relatively 
> safe in the
> mail world since mail's such a commodity service and is so in bed with
> DNS, but definitely play with it first :)  And maybe keep low TTL's on
> the RR records.  You can always then go in and whack the one record
> whose host is down if necessary to force all responses to 
> resolve to the
> host that's up.
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 11:41 AM
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> Subject: [isalist] RE: OT: DNS Question
> 
> http://www.ISAserver.org
> 
> Cool...thats what I thought
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 12:23 PM
> To: ISA Mailing List
> Subject: [isalist] RE: OT: DNS Question
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> Hi Steve,
> 
> You can create two Host (A) records for mail.bldc.com.
> 
> The create an MX record for mail.bldc.com.
> 
> Enable DNS RR on the DNS server.
> 
> That should do it, unless this capsicum has gone to my brainium, borax
> and abominable cavity.
> 
> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
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>  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 10:14 AM
> > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
> > Subject: [isalist] OT: DNS Question
> > 
> > http://www.ISAserver.org
> > 
> > Normally, I'm quite good at DNS, (STFU Greggo....:), but I 
> cant get my
> 
> > head around this one...:)
> > 
> > No ISA involved yet....it's on the cards.
> > 
> > Client has 1 dedicated line and 1 ADSL line.  Heh heh not a load 
> > balancing or teaming question.
> > 
> > Dedicated line has an fqdn of mail.bldc.com
> > 
> > ADSL line has an fqdn of mail2.bldc.com (Static IP)
> > 
> > Now...I want to be able to resolve mail.bldc.com to both 
> IP's, is this
> 
> > possible in DNS, externally hosted?.....so that if one line 
> is down, 
> > it'll go to the other.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > Steve
> > 
> > The correct technical term for haggis stalking is "havering". 
> > 
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