Hey guys, Any of you that hang out around the mothership -- can't you recommend a good CTEC in the Redmond/Bellvue area? I mean a good one with instructors that know the products and use them in production enviroments. I appreciate any advice recommendations you can give me. Actually, it doesn't even need to be a CTEC, just a good training center for Microsoft products, especially ISA Server. Thanks! Tom Thomas W Shinder www.isaserver.org/shinder <http://www.isaserver.org/shinder> ISA Server and Beyond: http://tinyurl.com/1jq1 Configuring ISA Server: http://tinyurl.com/1llp <http://tinyurl.com/1llp>