Interesting - with these dumb Telstra Non standard ports ... how can I configure these to go through web proxy - works just fine through after I have defined the relevant protocol/ports and don't use web proxy but that kind of defeats the purpose .. This is one of the culprits https://bcoba-server.bigpond.net.au:8443/rhwc/smu Hans Klarenbeek (Bunch of geek letters) I used to think I was immortal but then realised I couldn't spell and was in fact immoral.