-- snip -- >God, I remember it now-- I was talking to your Doug Bayer, telling him how >I could force silent NTLM/LM authentication over outbound 1433 via an HTML >email, and he said "What difference does it make what port you authenticate >on??" I was like, "Oh my God! You are a total tool!!" I hope he's >learned >something about security sense then... Anyway, I digress... The point is, ... are we talking about Doug Bayer, the Director of Windows Security over at Microsoft? If so, part of my Windows soul just died a little.