http://www.ISAserver.org ------------------------------------------------------- You can break a block down to 4 address if you like (1 wire, 2 host, 1 broadcast) with a /30 notation. A /29 only has 6 useable address if you respect the wire and broadcast IP's (some people don't). A /28 will get you up to 14, a /27 up to 32. Common ones I use: CIDR Block Prefix # Equivalent Class C # of Host Addresses /27 1/8th of a Class C 32 hosts /26 1/4th of a Class C 64 hosts /25 1/2 of a Class C 128 hosts /24 1 Class C 256 hosts /23 2 Class C 512 hosts /22 4 Class C 1,024 hosts /21 8 Class C 2,048 hosts /20 16 Class C 4,096 hosts /19 32 Class C 8,192 hosts /18 64 Class C 16,384 hosts /17 128 Class C 32,768 hosts /16 256 Class C 65,536 hosts (= 1 Class B) /15 512 Class C 131,072 hosts /14 1,024 Class C 262,144 hosts /13 2,048 Class C 524,288 hosts A full table can be found at: http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:cOHigva_Je8J:doc.m0n0.ch/quickstart wrap/+CIDR+numbers&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=7&client=firefox-a I'd point you to more references, but we all know how well Cisco based information is accepted here... =?P -----Original Message----- From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ball, Dan Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 6:26 AM To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isalist] Re: Isa 2004 and CIDR? http://www.ISAserver.org ------------------------------------------------------- Yes, you should be able to do that with no problem. Per RFC 1918 (http://tools.ietf.org/html/1918), the 192.168.x.x subnet is a group of 256 "contiguous" class C address blocks. Using a subnet mask in this situation would allow you to use those "contiguous" subnets as one. Since they are "contiguous", it is the equivalent of a Class B block in the Class C section. -----Original Message----- From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Taps Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 9:48 PM To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [isalist] Isa 2004 and CIDR? http://www.ISAserver.org ------------------------------------------------------- I know this is going to sound like a silly question, but I cant find any information confirming or denying this: We are currently using a 192.168.140.0/24 subnet in our internal network. Recently, we have started using VMWare to do support of some of our customers. We like to have duplicate setups of their servers in our virtual environment. At the extreme, our customers have 7 separate servers per site which we duplicate. We have recently acquired many new customers and about half our what we term "multi-site". So there is a possiblity of 14 or 21 servers. Each of which needing a static IP address (because of the stupid way the software is written). With the addition of these, plus the rest of our network, we are running out of IP Addresses. I am thinking of dropping the subnet mask back to a /23 or /22. To give me a usable range of 192.168.140.1-192.168.143.254. I realizing because of CIDR, the theory of 192.x.x.x needing to be a classC isnt an absolute anymore. But before I go through and make any changes, I was wondering if anyone could confirm or deny that ISA will handle this without any major issues. Before you ask, yes, I plan on testing this before I roll it out. But that wont be for a while. I figured if anyone had tried something similar they could clue me in on any issues that they might have had. If someone has tried it and it just wont work, then I will find another alternative. And yes, switching to a 10.x.x.x address was considered. But again, with the way some of the software was written, the IP addresses would need to stay the same. -- Taps@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://Taps.Iniquity.Org - "What spirit is so empty and blind, that it cannot recognize the fact that the foot is more noble than the shoe, and skin more beautiful than the garment with which it is clothed?" -- Michaelangelo - "Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. 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