Hi Tom, Dunno - it never occurred to me to see if WMP was trying to "mix its proxy tenses" when accessing content. This is just stupid - "may use WinInet or WinHTTP, depending on the phase of the moon at certain latitudes on alternate Thursdays..." It does, however remind me of a problem for all applications that depend on the WinHTTP interpretation of the wpad.dat or array.dll?Get.Routing.Script mechanism when you're operating behind an ISA array. If you're operating in a standalone ISA environment, breathe a sigh of relief and move on to the next thread. For everyone else, there are three things at work here: - AutoConfig script (pac file)- there are two functions that are used in determining the "proxy of the moment" when making a request: MakeNodes(), which creates a collection of array members and their basic relationship to the request (details upon request) to be used by FindProxyForURL(), which combines the requested URL and another value (called a "hash") to determine which proxy is the best one to make the request to. - WinHTTP WinHttpGetProxyForUrl(), which should return the proxy based on the wpad FindProxyForURL() function, but instead returns the first server from the MakeNodes() list. The reason is spelled out here: http://tinyurl.com/8bfpd and here: http://tinyurl.com/bvuze. What this all boils down to is that any application using WinHTTP auto-discovery or the the WinHttpGetProxyForUrl function will only see the first server in the list provided by the MakeNodes() function in the wpad script. One such application is Outlook 2003 (Windows RPC, really, but that's deeper than we want to go right now). In a word, if you find Outlook (or any other WinHTTP-based application) unable to make outbound HTTP proxy requests, make sure the first server listed in the MakeNodes() function (not necessarily the first -listed server in the array) is responding. You can't depend on the wpad script being accurate (as your array members come and go) because both IE and WinHTTP cache this content for no less than 1 hour (per the delivery headers). The only way to tell that this is occurring is a combination of NetMon (or Ethereal) sniffs and the WinHTTP tracing tool (http://tinyurl.com/7lmh5), available in the Windows 2003 Resource Kit (http://tinyurl.com/b4zsb). Ain't life grand...? -----Original Message----- From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 10:39 AM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: Interesting fix in WS03 SP1 http://www.ISAserver.org Hey Jim, Interesting! I wonder if the issue is there for WMP 10? Thanks! 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