One thing I forgot to list that factored against changing web filters is that I have had to manually configure a lot of URLs because of the nature of business my client is in. They are an electronic parts distributor and many of their customers or vendors sites are listed as Shopping, which that category is blocked as normally it would be for a company site. I talked to sales people at both Surf Control and Orange Box and neither of them could offer any way of importing those URLs from Burstek. Food for thought. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You