Yes I USE DIAL-UP. (grin) I have a 4Meg DSL connection which uses PPPoE, thus I use dial-up on my ISA 2004 Server. My question is since PPPoE sits on top of the External NIC as it own layer which it gets its own IP and not the NIC can I assign a bogus IP to the NIC without it affecting ISA server? The reason for doing this is simple. Since the NIC doesn't obtain an IP since SP1 if the NIC can not get an IP address it will flag the connection with a yellow "!" sign, and attempt again and again to try and get an IP. Well my logs are filling up with "!" errors how the NIC wasn't able to obtain an IP address. :( When doing the same scenario on a workstation with the DSL connection (not going through a cable/dsl router) you can add an NIC to the card and it doesn't do anything to effect the net, but since this ISA I figure I would ask before messing with it. Thanks Andrew