[isalist] Re: ISA Server 2004 comparison to SonicWall

  • From: "Barbara Causey" <barbara@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 14:42:31 -0400

We have a T1 connection, 13 public Internet computers and 12 staff Internet 
computers, but they don't all access the Internet at the same time.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Rob Moore 
  To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 2:09 PM
  Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA Server 2004 comparison to SonicWall


  You may also want to do some monitoring of your ISA server, most likely your 
NIC performance. You might also look at how many pages are being returned from 
cache.

  How many people do you have using your Internet connection and how big is 
your connection?

  Rob



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  From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Rob Moore
  Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 1:49 PM
  To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA Server 2004 comparison to SonicWall


  The vendor will probably tell you that, because ISA is running on Windows 
it's more vulnerable than a Sonic Wall firewall, and that because it's running 
on Windows it's busier than the Sonic Wall would be, thus slowing down your 
connection. He would, of course, be wrong.

  Try to figure out where your bottleneck is. You need to do some monitoring. 
Packeteer is one (expensive) way to do it. Your router may have some built in 
tools for monitoring. Your ISP may be able to give you some graphs of your 
Internet usage. We recently did this and found that our connection was 
saturated most of the time.

  Rob



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  From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Barbara Causey
  Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 1:22 PM
  To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA Server 2004 comparison to SonicWall


  Thank you Dr. Tom for the info, but if you could point me in the right 
direction to see what is causing the slowness then maybe the Boss wouldn't want 
to spend the money for the SonicWall! :-)

  Thank you!
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Thomas W Shinder 
    To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 1:03 PM
    Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA Server 2004 comparison to SonicWall


    Hi Barbara,

    In 99.987% of the cases "network slowness" is not an ISA problem. The 
Sonicwall will inherit the same problems that were fasley attributed to the ISA 
Firewall.

    The vendor should explain how the Sonicwall will solve this performance 
problem (which he won't be able to).

    Tom

    Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
    Site: www.isaserver.org
    Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
    Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
    MVP -- Microsoft Firewalls (ISA)





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      From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
On Behalf Of Barbara Causey
      Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 11:14 AM
      To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA Server 2004 comparison to SonicWall


      We have been having some problems with slowness on the network and he is 
convinced ISA is the culprit and a vendor has told him SonicWall will fix the 
problem.
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Thomas W Shinder 
        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 11:57 AM
        Subject: [isalist] Re: ISA Server 2004 comparison to SonicWall


        The first question would be why would he want to replace the ISA 
Firewall with a sonicwall? 

        Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
        Site: www.isaserver.org
        Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
        Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
        MVP -- Microsoft Firewalls (ISA)





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          From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Barbara Causey
          Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 10:48 AM
          To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
          Subject: [isalist] ISA Server 2004 comparison to SonicWall


          Hello List,

          The Boss is looking to replace our ISA Server 2004 with a SonicWall. 
Will 
          someone please give me enough information about this comparison that 
I can 
          convince him to keep ISA!

          Thank you,
          Barbara




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