RE: IP Address blocks by Countries
- From: "David Farinic" <davidf@xxxxxxx>
- To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2003 17:29:31 +0200
Yep, you are right, sorry. I just felt need to add my comment to point out that
these checks IP<>Country have far from reliable information.
Regards David farinic
-----Original Message-----
From: Edward Sullivan [mailto:esullivan@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 5.19 PM
To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Subject: [isalist] RE: IP Address blocks by Countries
http://www.ISAserver.org
David, I am sure your opinion is interesting to Joe, who posed the original
question. My responses were meant to supply him with answers, and not to start
a socio-economical or political discussion on the hazards and economic pitfalls
of blocking IP addresses.
Joe never said he wanted to block anyone - only that he wanted a way to
associate IP address blocks with countries. :)
-----Original Message-----
From: David Farinic [mailto:davidf@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 10:11 AM
To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Subject: [isalist] RE: IP Address blocks by Countries
http://www.ISAserver.org
>>Well, when there is an ASP component like this one, I am not sure I can agree
>>that the Internet is borderless:
>> http://www.activetarget.com/
Well ISPs are pushed to identify and comply with current society so at the end
we will have to say where we are and who we are....
However seeing such components and knowing how internet evolved in central
Europe when i often been connected directly with
ip registrated with some ISP in USA i can tell just this: these tools can be
deadly inaccurate... means innocent users can suffer
based on these restrictions...
Should i restrict all connection to USA just because my debit card has been
compromised by some semi-legal company in USA(CA) ?
Answer: NO.
We should plug the hole, not cover our eyes (packets from 1 direction) hoping
it would not happen from somewhere else.
Simply sometimes ppl are using tools because of their simplicity without
knowing whole true(background). Thats why false advertising works...
So my statement is: no restriction based on Country IPs are not safe
precautions if i want i will bypass it in matter of seconds.
I saw in DNS attempts to implement also records for position however it
failed... there wasn't force strong enough to make it MUST field in STANDARD
RFC. Now Microsoft knows about it (and not just them) and they want to tackle
identity problem directly to IP layer.. let see how they will succeed as they
can push standard themselves.
Just my view over this issue based on 10y. inet usage experience. David Farinic.
-----Original Message-----
From: Edward Sullivan [mailto:esullivan@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 4.39 PM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: IP Address blocks by Countries
http://www.ISAserver.org
Well, when there is an ASP component like this one, I am not sure I can agree
that the Internet is borderless:
http://www.activetarget.com/
"ActiveTarget is an ActiveX DLL component for ASP that allows you to easily
lookup the country code or name by IP address. It can be used to track website
visitors geographically, analyse website traffic, for anti-credit card fraud
and faked registration, to filter valueless traffic and decrease bandwidth
cost.
It is fast, accurate, stable and easy to use."
-----Original Message-----
From: David Farinic [mailto:davidf@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 9:38 AM
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Subject: [isalist] RE: IP Address blocks by Countries
http://www.ISAserver.org
don't u know internet is borderless? but it seems some ppl want to get borders
even on internet ...
restriction without prevention leads nowhere.
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Aldeguer [mailto:jaldeguer@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 4.27 PM
To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List]
Subject: [isalist] IP Address blocks by Countries
http://www.ISAserver.org
Greetings lists,
Does anyone have a lists of countries associated to IP address blocks assign
to a particular country or a link where I can find this info? Thanks.
Joe
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