[isalist] Re: Hardware.... (cringe) ...firewall ?
- From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 09:33:04 -0500
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Hi Shane,
No problems, that's how I took it! :)
The PIX tax reminds of when in the middle ages you could pay the church
to absolve you of your sins. The situation here is that they're paying
Cisco for their sin of slothfullness. Slothful in that they haven't
spent the time and effort to understand real network security and
blindly pay a router and switch company big money to protect comporate
data (does anyone see the paradox in this?)
Thanks!
Tom
Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
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MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> -----Original Message-----
> From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Shane Mullins
> Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 7:56 AM
> To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [isalist] Re: Hardware.... (cringe) ...firewall ?
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> http://www.ISAserver.org
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>
> Hey Thomas,
>
> I meant that to be a plug for ISA 2004. I think ISA 2004
> is great. We
> have two ISA 2004 boxes that firewall and provide internet
> access for 3,500
> machines. ISA 2004 has been rock solid for us. ISA 2004
> provides advanced
> logging and caching functions that a "hardware" firewall
> cannot provide. I
> have nothing against unix, but ISA 2004 is great.
> We could have paid 50k for a single pix to provide
> firewall services.
> Then signed up for a 5k a year maintenance agreement (so we could rcv
> updates). And all machines need updates, even "hardware"
> firewalls have an
> OS. And ISA still does so much more.
>
> Shane
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 6/19/06, Thomas W Shinder <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> http://www.ISAserver.org
> >> -------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Yes, it's that good. Go Daddy and the ISP are clueless.
> Have you ever
> >> talked to your ISP's "tech guys" who make these
> recommendations? Let's
> >> just say that the typical interaction leaves you with the
> feeling that
> >> they're not on the top of the firewall and networking food
> chains :)
> >>
> >> Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
> >> Site: www.isaserver.org
> >> Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
> >> Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
> >> MVP -- ISA Firewalls
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Shane Mullins
> >> > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 1:10 PM
> >> > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > Subject: [isalist] Re: Hardware.... (cringe) ...firewall ?
> >> >
> >> > http://www.ISAserver.org
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> >> >
> >> > ISA 2K4 is really good? There is an eval version. Maybe he
> >> > would let you
> >> > try that.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Shane
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "G.Waleed Kavalec" <kavalec@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> > To: <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 1:08 PM
> >> > Subject: [isalist] Hardware.... (cringe) ...firewall ?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > http://www.ISAserver.org
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> >> > > My boss has been talking to our ISP and also to some folks
> >> > at GoDaddy.
> >> > >
> >> > > Both use - and recommend - hardware firewall solutions.
> >> > >
> >> > > What do I tell him? He is poised to make one of those
> classic PHB
> >> > > decisions.
> >> > >
> >> > > (currently on ISA 2K)
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > >
> >> > > G. Waleed Kavalec
> >> > > -------------------------
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> >> > > and where is it going so fast?
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> > --
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> > G. Waleed Kavalec
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