Hi Steve, I've always had good experiences with the GFI people. I test *all* software before installing it on production machines, from all vendors. And for things like Exchange, I try to keep all 3rd party software off the machine if possible. For example, the ISA Server Message Screener or Mail Essentials work fine on an SMTP relay, so why introduce problems to the Exchange Server if you don't have to? Especially when it comes to spam whacking, which seems to always be a very processor intensive operation. HTH, Tom Thomas W Shinder www.isaserver.org/shinder ISA Server and Beyond: http://tinyurl.com/1jq1 Configuring ISA Server: http://tinyurl.com/1llp -----Original Message----- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 6:45 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: GFI http://www.ISAserver.org Hi John, Good link. Yes, GFI's uninstalls leave a great deal to be desired, i have had many problems with there software, indeed there is still a service call open for me regarding download security not installing correctly (tells me that the virus definition subscription has expired, right from day one.), of which I have heard nothing, ( apart from a mail from them asking if the call had been dealt with ok, to which I replied in the negative,), and also with mail security, which was resolved by a vb script supplied by GFI. I always test GFI products thoroughly, before installing on production servers for customer,s. Just as well. Steve _____ From: John Tolmachoff Sent: Fri 07/03/2003 08:15 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] GFI http://www.ISAserver.org Interesting read: In some scenarios, the sink bindings may exist in the Exchange 2000 Server metabase but the sink is not properly registered in the registry. When this occurs, the SMTP protocol does not create the sink when it tries to process the "MAIL FROM" command. As a result Exchange 2000 Server drops the connection, and the outgoing mail is not processed. This issue may occur when a third party program, for example GFI Mail Essentials, is installed and then incorrectly or incompletely removed. GFI Mail Essentials contains an add-on named Mail Security. Mail Security installs an outbound SMTP sink that verifies the validity of the sender address. If improperly removed, the sink may remain although the sink is no longer correctly registered. When the "MAIL FROM" command is initiated by Exchange 2000 Server, the sink fails and Exchange 2000 Server drops the connection. The third-party products that are discussed in this article are manufactured by companies that are independent of Microsoft. Microsoft makes no warranty, implied or otherwise, regarding the performance or reliability of these products. From http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;812292 John Tolmachoff MCSE, CSSA IT Manager, Network Engineer RelianceSoft, Inc. Fullerton, CA 92835 www.reliancesoft.com