Hey everyone, I don't know what I didn't think of it before! MSN has Web based chat sites. Check it out: http://groups.msn.com/ISAServerorgChat/chat We'll do an open chat once a week, and then do more directed ones on a schedule once I have time to put one together. Thanks! Tom Thomas W Shinder www.isaserver.org/shinder <http://www.isaserver.org/shinder> ISA Server and Beyond: http://tinyurl.com/1jq1 Configuring ISA Server: http://tinyurl.com/1llp <http://tinyurl.com/1llp>