Ahhh long day and its only 6pm. :) too much computer crap going on -----Original Message----- From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 5:49 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: FW: RE: FYI: The Seattle Times: Business & Technology: Study finds Windows more secure than Linux http://www.ISAserver.org "You talkin' to me? You? Talking to me? You? Me?" De Niro in "Taxi Driver." Come on, dontcha remember? Cybill Shepard? Jodi Foster? Keitel? Peter Goiter? I mean Boil? er, Boyle? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Mulholland" <greg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 10:38 PM Subject: [isalist] RE: FW: RE: FYI: The Seattle Times: Business & Technology: Study finds Windows more secure than Linux http://www.ISAserver.org Taxi boy ? -----Original Message----- From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 5:30 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: FW: RE: FYI: The Seattle Times: Business & Technology: Study finds Windows more secure than Linux http://www.ISAserver.org You betcha, taxi boy. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Mulholland" <greg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 10:27 PM Subject: [isalist] RE: FW: RE: FYI: The Seattle Times: Business & Technology: Study finds Windows more secure than Linux http://www.ISAserver.org U talkin' to me :) -----Original Message----- From: Thor (Hammer of God) [mailto:thor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 5:07 PM To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] Subject: [isalist] RE: FW: RE: FYI: The Seattle Times: Business & Technology: Study finds Windows more secure than Linux http://www.ISAserver.org No, YOU don't send mail again! Jeeze... t ----- Original Message ----- From: "Technical" <technical@xxxxxxxxxx> To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 9:08 PM Subject: [isalist] RE: FW: RE: FYI: The Seattle Times: Business & Technology: Study finds Windows more secure than Linux > http://www.ISAserver.org > > don't sent mail agin to me,thank > > -- > Sent with BAGAN-CYBERTECH Webmail (http://www.bagan.net.mm) > > > ---------- Original Message ----------- > From: "Greg Mulholland" <greg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: "[ISAserver.org Discussion List]" <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 09:12:03 +1100 > Subject: [isalist] RE: FW: RE: FYI: The Seattle Times: Business & > Technology: > Study finds Windows more secure than Linux > >> http://www.ISAserver.org >> >> LOL >> >> Jims mate Steve :) >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: Amy Babinchak [mailto:amy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] >> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 8:53 AM >> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] >> Subject: [isalist] FW: RE: FYI: The Seattle Times: Business & >> Technology: Study finds Windows more secure than Linux >> >> http://www.ISAserver.org >> >> ShieldsUP! >> >> Amy >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] >> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 4:40 PM >> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] >> Subject: [isalist] RE: FYI: The Seattle Times: Business & Technology: >> Study finds Windows more secure than Linux >> >> http://www.ISAserver.org >> >> Hi Amy, >> >> And then you have the dopes in the consumer space that refer to >> personal or host-based firewalls as "software" firewalls :( >> >> Tom >> www.isaserver.org/shinder <http://www.isaserver.org/shinder> >> Tom and Deb Shinder's Configuring ISA Server 2004 >> http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7 <http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7> MVP -- ISA >> Firewalls >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: Amy Babinchak [mailto:amy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] >> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 3:35 PM >> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] >> Subject: [isalist] RE: FYI: The Seattle Times: Business & Technology: >> Study finds Windows more secure than Linux >> >> http://www.ISAserver.org >> >> The RPC argument is always a good one, but the people that believe >> that any old hardware firewall is better than a software firewall are >> not rational. >> >> Amy >> >> Harbor Computer Services >> >> Small Business Computer Specialists >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:greg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] >> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 4:26 PM >> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] >> Subject: [isalist] RE: FYI: The Seattle Times: Business & Technology: >> Study finds Windows more secure than Linux >> >> http://www.ISAserver.org >> >> Amy >> >> interestingly ive been looking at a linksys wireless router the last >> few days. and i also have an older netgear router/switch (which i use >> the switch part of only) and i can say as good as they are at what >> they are they are not an ISA by far. The linksys one can now control >> outbound access to particular computers but cannot limit access to >> one specific protocol via a source ip. Once the "ports open" its >> open. Also i had this argument with someone about the need to only >> use smtp part of and exchange server and i said i would much rather >> have the ability to use all the features of exchange behind a proper >> firewall that actually knows how to protect things such as rpc >> connections. >> >> I prefer the granular control of an ISA for my vpn clients, the >> ability to publish multiple websites without having to change ports >> from 80 to 81 etc but as i said they are great fro some things when >> you dont need that sort of control and ability to expose your servers >> to the world in a constant/secure manner. >> >> Greg >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: Amy Babinchak [mailto:amy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] >> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 8:05 AM >> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] >> Subject: [isalist] RE: FYI: The Seattle Times: Business & Technology: >> Study finds Windows more secure than Linux >> >> http://www.ISAserver.org >> >> If I could convince some clients that it's more secure than a Netgear >> router I'd be making progress. >> >> Amy >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx] >> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 2:18 PM >> To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] >> Subject: [isalist] FYI: The Seattle Times: Business & Technology: >> Study finds Windows more secure than Linux >> >> http://www.ISAserver.org >> >> The Seattle Times: Business & Technology: Study finds Windows more >> secure than Linux: >> http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/2002182315_s >> ecu >> rity17.html >> >> Next step is showing the ISA firewall is more secure than the PIX. >> Stay tuned! >> >> HTH, >> >> Tom >> >> ------------------------------------------------------ >> List Archives: http://www.webelists.com/cgi/lyris.pl?enter=isalist >> ISA Server Newsletter: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/newsletter.asp >> ISA Server FAQ: http://www.isaserver.org/pages/larticle.asp?type=FAQ >> 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