[isalist] Re: "Domain Controllers" in ISA 2004

  • From: "Thomas W Shinder" <tshinder@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 13:34:09 -0600

No, it's been available in Exchange until Exchange 2007, when they
decided to hire a Linux programmer to hork the Exchange 2007 UI -- it's
abso-fsking-ly worthless.
 
POP3S and IMAP4S are those protocols over a TLS encrypted channel.
Pretty useful when you don't have the full Outlook 2003/2007 client.
 
Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
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        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Amy Babinchak
        Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 1:33 PM
        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [isalist] Re: "Domain Controllers" in ISA 2004
        
        

        POP3S, as in POP w/ SSL? Is this a sendmail open source
invention? As a former nun I know would say in a voice dripping with
scarasm. "Help me, please, somebody Help me"

         

        Amy 

         

         

        
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        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
        Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 11:27 AM
        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [isalist] Re: "Domain Controllers" in ISA 2004

         

        It's on a "need to know" basis -- sort of like configuring
Exchange 2007 to support POP3S and IMAP4S.

         

        Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
        Site: www.isaserver.org <http://www.isaserver.org/> 
        Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
        Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
        MVP -- Microsoft Firewalls (ISA)

         

                 

                
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                From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gerald G. Young
                Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 10:19 AM
                To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                Subject: [isalist] Re: "Domain Controllers" in ISA 2004

                What?  Microsoft is pulling a Jack Nicholson?  We can't
handle the truth?

                 

                I'm clueless as to what gives and was hoping to lurk
long enough to see the light.  No one's going to shine it our way? :-)

                 

                Cordially yours,

                Jerry G. Young II

                Application Engineer, Platform Engineering and
Architecture

                NTT America, an NTT Communications Company

                 

                22451 Shaw Rd.

                Sterling, VA 20166

                 

                Office: 571-434-1319

                Fax: 703-333-6749

                Email: g.young@xxxxxxxx

                 

                From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas W Shinder
                Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 11:14 AM
                To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                Subject: [isalist] Re: "Domain Controllers" in ISA 2004

                 

                I can't say any more -- Guido is right outside my
window!

                 

                Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
                Site: www.isaserver.org <http://www.isaserver.org/> 
                Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
                Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
                MVP -- Microsoft Firewalls (ISA)

                 

                         

                        
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                        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ball, Dan
                        Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 10:06 AM
                        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                        Subject: [isalist] Re: "Domain Controllers" in
ISA 2004

                        Speaking of which, I have two of those, "Domain
Controllers" and "Domain Controllers(1)" on my system...  Hmmmmm

                         

                        
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                        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rob Moore
                        Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 9:57 PM
                        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                        Subject: RE: [isalist] Re: "Domain Controllers"
in ISA 2004

                         

                        Here's what I'm experiencing. We have somewheres
around 15 DCs in the domain. Two of them are on the local subnet. I
recently retired one of the two local DCs. Then I noticed that our
Internet connection got real slow--mainly a delay of, say, 20 seconds
before a page would load. I started poking around with DNS. If I changed
the WAN card on the firewall to point at an external DNS server, the web
sped up a bunch. But you probably know that this isn't a good
arrangement and pretty soon thereafter we got other problems happening.
So I pointed DNS on the WAN card back to the LAN address on the
firewall. The other problems went away but slow access came back. So I
poked around on the firewall a bit and found that Domain Controllers
computer set. I noticed that the list in there was out of date, and both
of the DCs on the local domain that were in that list are now retired.
So I'm guessing (maybe incorrectly) that that somehow bears on this
problem--like maybe the ISA server is now trying to talk to DCs on
remote subnets since it can't find the two DCs on the local subnet. So I
was hoping if I could edit that computer set I could make the problem go
away.

                         

                        Anyway, that's what's happening. Maybe I'm way
off base? Any suggestions?

                         

                        Rob

                         

                        
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                        From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of
Thomas W Shinder
                        Sent: Tue 3/6/2007 3:54 PM
                        To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                        Subject: [isalist] Re: "Domain Controllers" in
ISA 2004

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                        The domain controllers computer set is one of
the great mysteries of the
                        ISA firewall. You won't find any documentation
about it and many will
                        deny its existance. Never bring it up in polite
company.
                        
                        Thomas W Shinder, M.D.
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                        Blog: http://blogs.isaserver.org/shinder/
                        Book: http://tinyurl.com/3xqb7
                        MVP -- Microsoft Firewalls (ISA)
                        
                        
                        
                        > -----Original Message-----
                        > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                        > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Rob Moore
                        > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 1:23 PM
                        > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                        > Subject: [isalist] Re: "Domain Controllers" in
ISA 2004
                        >
                        > http://www.ISAserver.org
<http://www.isaserver.org/> 
                        >
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                        >  
                        > Can this field not be edited? Is the ISA
server supposed to
                        > pick up the
                        > DCs automatically? What's the mechanism for
that? Is there
                        > something in
                        > my configuration that's not allowing this to
happen?
                        >
                        > Thanks,
                        > Rob
                        >
                        > -----Original Message-----
                        > From: Rob Moore
                        > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 1:18 PM
                        > To: 'isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
                        > Subject: RE: [isalist] Re: "Domain
Controllers" in ISA 2004
                        >
                        > I have a stand-alone Standard edition server.
I was trying to edit it
                        > from the ISA 2004 console.
                        >
                        > Rob
                        >
                        > -----Original Message-----
                        > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                        > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
                        > On Behalf Of Jim Harrison
                        > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 12:55 PM
                        > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                        > Subject: [isalist] Re: "Domain Controllers" in
ISA 2004
                        >
                        > http://www.ISAserver.org
<http://www.isaserver.org/> 
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                        >  
                        > Where are you editing from; array or
enterprise level?
                        >
                        > -----Original Message-----
                        > From: isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                        > [mailto:isalist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
                        > On Behalf Of Rob Moore
                        > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 9:10 AM
                        > To: isalist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                        > Subject: [isalist] "Domain Controllers" in ISA
2004
                        >
                        > I have a Computer Set in my ISA 2004 called
"Domain Controllers." The
                        > list is inaccurate, and I think it's starting
to cause us
                        > some trouble.
                        > But I can't seem to edit it. How do I make
changes to it?
                        >
                        > Thanks,
                        >
                        > Rob
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