There are a number of us that use Black Ice on a server for one reason, and one reason only. Incoming SMTP, counting number of invalid user, if over 5 in one session then block that IP for 24 hours. Works great at helping to stymy the flow from all those spam dictionary type attacks. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Harrison [mailto:Jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 11:25 AM > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > Subject: [isalist] RE: Another Numpty > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > EEeeewwww. > Black Ice blew up more machines that it protected. > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [mailto:johnlist@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 11:16 AM > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > Subject: [isalist] RE: Another Numpty > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > He wants a firewall for each server, so he is going to go out and by a > hardware firewall for each server. > > > > Amazing. > > > > And this is a security guy? > > > > Any one ever hear of Black Ice? > > > > John Tolmachoff > > Engineer/Consultant/Owner > > eServices For You > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Moffat [mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 9:10 AM > To: [ISAserver.org Discussion List] > Subject: [isalist] Another Numpty > > > > http://www.ISAserver.org > > > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/03/18/windows_server_firewall/ > > > > ____________________________________________ > Steve Moffat President & CEO Optimum I.T. 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