I quit using Yahoo soon as I found out they became a subsidiary of Microsoft. I dont do business with monopolies. I've never bought any Microsoft software. Their unethical business practices created lots of enemies, and thus we see all the sabotage software, which wont quit till M$ is history. I go on USENET from time to time, but the interface with a 56k modem access is cumbersome and slow. I like being subbed to vox@xxxxxxxxxxx cause it is sent straight to my email box; I can boot Xandros, and come back later to find all of the vox and private email sitting on my drive. Gonzo faster than fetching it from a server. But- I remember QWKmail with the BBS networks like Fido, WWIV, Rampage, et al, which archived all the public newgroup posts and my private in a .zip and then extracted to the drive, with functionality lacking in Mozilla. Occassionally, I get CC'd a copy of something, but these long lists of addresses seems to cause sabotage software and spam problems to, or from, windoz users. I just received a newer oscilloscope, and have a design for a PC power supply that runs off a 12 volt car battery. I plan to sell the DC-PC to folks who live off the grid, and run their homes on solar panels. But the first prototype will go online as a BBS server that anyone anywhere can dial into direct, without using internet access, and get email and newsgroups. I can setup the BBS interface so it will not have any spam, sabotage software, or authentication problems. Every time your PC logs off, the host will record the time, as will your PC; and when you log back on again, the host will ask the logoff time as the password. The password will constantly change, and be stored on both host and desktop as a *DOS* file, and both will be running DOS. Since DOS is not 'multi-tasking', there is no *background* for sabotage software to run in, and no way that it could hack into the network or yer own desktop. So, while I am dissatisfied with my newgroup options, I can see that integrating them with the hardware and the software will only add to the appeal of the whole system. Is there a way for ya to mark someone as a twit or troll in yer newsgroups so that ya never havta sift thru their messages, but automatically not have them included in the download? Or eliminate anyone who posts more than 10 times as much as the average in the newsgroup. Or where everyone in the newsgroups has been googled, or in some other way, ascertained that they are a real person; not a spam bot. Or where those who are filtered, are told why, because of irrational rants, flaming or whatever, which offers them a way to modify their behavior. A coop so nobody can gain by selling yer stats in a buy out. A coop can make their own rules like the above to eliminate those who abuse the commons of the Global village. Open source software, and the hardware is open, industrial standard parts, with no gotchas when ya wanna upgrade. Who funds Freelists?