It'll pay to check I got the best standard. IPC-2315 is for microvias as well. There's possibly some overlap. >>> sjchar3@xxxxxxxxxxxx 16/02/2006 10:25 a.m. >>> Thanks Richard, I'll be talking to them soon and thanks for the IPC reference book. Going to see boss about some money. -----Original Message----- From: richard moffat <richard.moffat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:43:20 +1300 Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: micro vias and blind vias .AOLPlainTextBody { margin: 0px; font-family: Tahoma, Verdana, Arial, Sans-Serif; font-size: 12px; color: #000; background-color: #fff; }.AOLPlainTextBody pre { font-size: 9pt;}.AOLInlineAttachment { margin: 10px;}.AOLAttachmentHeader { border-bottom: 2px solid #E9EAEB; background: #F9F9F9;}.AOLAttachmentHeader .Title { font: 11px Tahoma; font-weight: bold; color: #666666; background: #E9EAEB; padding: 3px 0px 1px 10px;}.AOLAttachmentHeader .FieldLabel { font: 11px Tahoma; font-weight: bold; color: #666666; padding: 1px 10px 1px 9px;}.AOLAttachmentHeader .FieldValue { font: 11px Tahoma; color: #333333;}Hello Sam I misread your original email. I thought you were looking for good materials, ie. what type of prepregs and cores to use. (A recent excercise we went through for isolation requirements.) Many places consider a microvia <= to 8mils, 8mil being the smallest practical mechanical drill. If you get your company to shell out for IPC-2226, it's a good reference with really good graphics. As mentioned, Happy Holden puts out good articles as well. I'd still talk to your fab house though, just to confirm their capabilities. Once you have the stackup designed, have them approve it before serious routing. Cheers, Richard >>> jwages@xxxxxxxxx 16/02/2006 4:01 a.m. >>> Last time I used blind laser vias, I ran them from top to n-1 and n-2. (Top to 2nd lyr-pwr plane & 3rd lyr-gnd plane) and also from bottom layer to the same bottom minus 1 and minus 2 layers, which were also power and gnd planes. The N-1 via was a 4 mil laser drill, and the N-2 was an 8 mil drill. The hole is actually V shaped and that's what the fabricator wants for best connectivity. I did this with Sanmina-SCI fabricating the boards, but I think this i From: icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of SjChar3@xxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 9:54 AM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: micro vias and blind vias Thanks Richard, we are planning on doing a board with a .5mm bga. Since i have never dealt with blind or micro vias i thought i could read a little b Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Allied Telesyn Research Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender has the authority to issue and specifically states them to be the views of Allied Telesyn Research.