[PCB_FORUM] Re: Non plated Holes DRC checking?

  • From: "Bolman, Shirley H" <shirley.h.bolman@xxxxxxxxx>
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  • Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 09:34:16 -0700

There is always a possibility of a sliver of copper floating around when you 
use pad same size as drill.
We create all of our NPTH padstacks with a 10 mil spotter pad. We also define a 
circular line on a board geometry
subclass that is the same size as the drill. This can then be set up so line to 
line checking will generate a DRC.

Shirley in Oregon

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[mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark Salberg
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We create the padstack with the same size pad as drill. After it is 
drilled...no more copper.

We used to have the pad smaller than the drill, but then you are not checking 
the actual distance for drc.

Regards,
Mark

Bill Zembek wrote:
Hi
In version 16.3 & 16.2 you can setup the drc for hole to shape, line, hole 
checks.
To create a donut pad create a circle shape, cut a narrow rectangular void, 
then void the center.
It creates a C.

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[mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Seymour
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As far as the donut pads goes: One of the problems is flash symbols can not 
have void:


Create symbol started.


 ERROR(SPMHCS-8): Flash symbol cannot have a void in a shape.

Dave


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16.3

Dave Seymour
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[mailto:icu-pcb-forum-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Les Wong
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What version of Allegro are you using ?

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To get the pull back on power layers we use Route keepout around NP pins. This 
also serves the same function on signal layers to keep traces out of the holes.



Sue Reade
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We put a pad but in the flash name we put "BLANK" and then it's not actually a 
pad on the board, just a pad for Allegro to use. Alternate would be to put a 
route keepout around the pin.



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To All,



I'm looking for alternative way of creating Non plated holes in allegro.



I have 2 situations:



1)     Non plated hole, No pad. - What are people using to keep traces away 
from the edge of the drill hole?



2)     Non plated hole with a pad. - In this case a donut shaped pad would be 
best where one could specify an inside diameter and an external diameter.



I have a current method, but am curious as to how other folks are doing either 
of the above.



Thanks

Dave





Dave Seymour

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