I use Capture CIS (9.2 <-- yeah, I know I'm behind). If I'm going to make the short on a component layer, I found a quick way to do it is to draw a 0-ohm resistor between the two nets. The resistor's assigned footprint is just a very short wire segment. Solves all your DRC problems because you have a component isolating the two nets still, even though fab produces a short. The obvious drawbacks being that you have to place the short separately from the tracks because the autorouter sees it as a component and not a track, it can only go on component layers, and it violates some notions of readability. On the up side it is very easy to do and very quick to implement. Thanks for all your help in the past Jim. Jonathan Friedman, GSR Networked Embedded Systems Laboratory (NESL) University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA) -----Original Message----- From: J Wages [mailto:jwages@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 12:25 PM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Allegro 15.1: Shorting nets Hey folks. Hopefully a simple question. Does Allegro 15.1 now have the ability to short two nets together without creating a DRC error? I want to short a digital ground plane with another isolated plane, but they both have separate net names. I know I can do it by adding a feature that will short the nets together using a non-etch layer during artwork extraction, but that will cause an error at the fab end. Isn't there a property I can add to a shape or via or pin? Thanx in advance Jim S. Wages / SR. PCB Layout Designer: (919) 484-2963 -----Original Message----- From: Schwartz, Jerome [mailto:jschwa01@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 10:37 AM To: 'icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: strange characters in gerbers Jan, I tried: http://www.freedict.com/onldict/lat.html Hillbilly does not translate. Regards, Jerry Schwartz, CID+ IPC Certified Designer "May The Schwartz Be With You." Designer 3 Harris Corporation GCSD Voice (321)-727-5474 P.O. Box 37, MS 1/9843 Fax (321)-727-6007 Melbourne, FL 32902-0037 Pager (321)-690-9797 mailto:Jerome.Schwartz@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.harris.com -----Original Message----- From: Noble, Jan [mailto:jan.noble@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 11:26 AM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] Re: strange characters in gerbers Sam, Your English is fine. Welcome to the group. HillBilly is my second language. :-))) Does anyone have a Latin translation for HillBilly? Jan Noble Intel Corporation DuPont Board Development 253-371-6197 Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscripti catapultas habebunt -----Original Message----- From: sjcharles@xxxxxxx [mailto:sjcharles@xxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 8:22 AM To: icu-pcb-forum@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [PCB_FORUM] strange characters in gerbers Group, I'm using the 15.2 cadence, and I'm generating gerbers. I'm seeing extra characters in gerbers, but are not visible when I dislay the fab drawing. I've enable all layers and don't see these characters. Any ideas? Please excuse my unsophisticated english. Sam ----------------------------------------------------------- To subscribe/unsubscribe: Send a message to icu-pcb-forum-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with a subject of subscribe or unsubscribe To view the archives of this list please login at //www.freelists.org. 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