Hi, I don't have my braille plus yet, still waiting for it. What is refalshing? I've heard that mentioned but wasn't sur ewhat it was.
Thanks, Stacey and GEB dog Chesley staceyr75@xxxxxxxxxxxxx----- Original Message ----- From: "ed lopez" <ejl@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 5:53 AM Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: icon-discuss Digest V2 151Hello people, this is Edd Lopez, a new member. you may want to try flashing the unit. I was talking to Mike about the same problem and we did a flash of the system, and it samed to have clared it up. This is my first email on the icon, so i hope it goes through. Take
care, and I hope to talk to all of you later. On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 02:10:33 -0400 (EDT), FreeLists Mailing List Manager wrote:
icon-discuss Digest Sat, 28 Jul 2007 Volume: 02 Issue: 151 In This Issue: [icon-discuss] Web Browser issues? [icon-discuss] happy saturday everyone [icon-discuss] Re: Web Browser issues? [icon-discuss] Re: happy saturday everyone [icon-discuss] Re: Web Browser issues? [icon-discuss] Re: happy saturday everyone [icon-discuss] Re: Web Browser issues? [icon-discuss] Re: Web Browser issues? [icon-discuss] Just Wondering [icon-discuss] Re: Just Wondering [icon-discuss] Re: Web Browser issues? [icon-discuss] Richard, can you resend your helpful advice o [icon-discuss] Re: Richard, can you resend your helpful advi [icon-discuss] Re: Just Wondering [icon-discuss] update free? [icon-discuss] Re: update free? [icon-discuss] Re: Just Wondering [icon-discuss] Re: Just Wondering [icon-discuss] Re: Richard, can you resend your helpful advi ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Crystal French" <raincrow@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [icon-discuss] Web Browser issues? Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 07:14:19 -0500 Hi, I seem to have a lot of trouble using the web browser. Last night, I was trying to read an ebay page, and it hung on some kind of list, and would go no further, no matter what I tried to do. Kind of like it got into a briar patch and could not extricate itself. I finally got out of the browser, and, then, tried to close it with the Task Manager. That didn't work either. It took a reset to get the Braille Plus functioning correctly, again. This is pretty much how my previous tries with the browser have gone, too. I was not running any other applications at the time, and, I have the most current version of the software. Does anyone else have similar problems, or am I not doing something right? Crystal ------------------------------ From: "james hooper" <james_hooper@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [icon-discuss] happy saturday everyone Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 07:09:28 -0600 Greetings all jams here in Denver hope everyone is doing well, I was just wondering I have noticed that a lot of people post issues they are having with both the Braille plus and icon, and I know relatively speaking it is a new product in terms of comparison to say products by freedom or humanware in the note taker /PDA department, are their developers who monitor this list it would be interesting to get their comments as to questions, that people have raised also maybe tidbits on what their long term as well as short term plans, I know they have a podcast that comes out it just would be nice to hear from people in the know to kind of say hey thanks for being with us we understand your frustrations and here is what we are working on long term short term. my msn is happy_james_2454@xxxxxxxxxxx my aim is goldenvoice1954 and my skype is golden_voice1954 ------------------------------ From: "Larry Lumpkin" <llumpkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Web Browser issues? Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 08:56:40 -0500 Hi Crystal. We all have that problem. I understand that that is one of the many browser issues which will be fixed "in the next release", which I hope comes soon. A work-around is to jump past the list with the next heading or next link key. You might first have to up arrow above the list to do this.----- Original Message ----- From: "Crystal French" <raincrow@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 7:14 AM Subject: [icon-discuss] Web Browser issues?Hi, I seem to have a lot of trouble using the web browser. Last night, I was trying to read an ebay page, and it hung on some kind of list, and would go no further, no matter what I tried to do. Kind of like it got into a briar patch and could not extricate itself. I finally got out of the browser, and, then, tried to close it with the Task Manager. That didn't work either. It took a reset to get the Braille Plus functioning correctly, again. This is pretty much how my previous tries with the browser have gone, too. I was not running any other applications at the time, and, I have the most current version of the software. Does anyone else have similar problems, or am I not doing something right? Crystal------------------------------ From: "Larry Lumpkin" <llumpkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: happy saturday everyone Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 08:59:49 -0500 Hi james. I have gotten responses on the list from Michael Jones who is a company representative. If you phone them, You usually get him and he is usually pretty forthcoming with information. I believe a new release is coming very soon.----- Original Message ----- From: "james hooper" <james_hooper@xxxxxxxxxxx>To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 8:09 AM Subject: [icon-discuss] happy saturday everyoneGreetings all jams here in Denver hope everyone is doing well, I was just wondering I have noticed that a lot of people post issues they are having with both the Braille plus and icon, and I know relatively speaking it is a new product in terms of comparison to say products by freedom or humanware in the note taker /PDA department, are their developers who monitor this list it would be interesting to get their comments as to questions, that people have raised also maybe tidbits on what their long term as well as short term plans, I know they have a podcast that comes out it just would be nice to hear from people in the know to kind of say hey thanks for being with us we understand your frustrations and here is what we are working on long term short term. my msn is happy_james_2454@xxxxxxxxxxx my aim is goldenvoice1954 and my skype is golden_voice1954------------------------------ From: "kaye zimpher" <kayezimpher@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Web Browser issues? Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 10:01:50 -0400 I have that same problem with the Icon. When the brouser encounters a list and I select the list item I want pressing down arrow does not get me out of the list. The brouser does hang up a lot and I often receive a message that says "sorry the brouser crashed, we are working on it."----- Original Message ----- From: "Crystal French" <raincrow@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 8:14 AM Subject: [icon-discuss] Web Browser issues?Hi, I seem to have a lot of trouble using the web browser. Last night, I was trying to read an ebay page, and it hung on some kind of list, and would go no further, no matter what I tried to do. Kind of like it got into a briar patch and could not extricate itself. I finally got out of the browser, and, then, tried to close it with the Task Manager. That didn't work either. It took a reset to get the Braille Plus functioning correctly, again. This is pretty much how my previous tries with the browser have gone, too. I was not running any other applications at the time, and, I have the most current version of the software. Does anyone else have similar problems, or am I not doing something right? Crystal------------------------------ From: "kaye zimpher" <kayezimpher@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: happy saturday everyone Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 10:04:47 -0400 They are getting ready to come out with a new update that I have heard will clear up a lot of troubles we have. I also wonder if the developers or techs look at the list. I guess I should have done an introduction first huh. I am Kaye and I am in Atlanta. I bought my Icon at the convention a couple of weeks ago and I have really been enjoying it. I have had some strange issues, but overall, I love the device. It really has created a lot of organization fun and entertainment for me.----- Original Message ----- From: "james hooper" <james_hooper@xxxxxxxxxxx>To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 9:09 AM Subject: [icon-discuss] happy saturday everyoneGreetings all jams here in Denver hope everyone is doing well, I was just wondering I have noticed that a lot of people post issues they are having with both the Braille plus and icon, and I know relatively speaking it is a new product in terms of comparison to say products by freedom or humanware in the note taker /PDA department, are their developers who monitor this list it would be interesting to get their comments as to questions, that people have raised also maybe tidbits on what their long term as well as short term plans, I know they have a podcast that comes out it just would be nice to hear from people in the know to kind of say hey thanks for being with us we understand your frustrations and here is what we are working on long term short term. my msn is happy_james_2454@xxxxxxxxxxx my aim is goldenvoice1954 and my skype is golden_voice1954------------------------------ From: "Arianna Calesso" <acalesso@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Web Browser issues? Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 10:23:22 -0400 Yes, I've had to do many resets. Sometimes while downloading RSS or Podcast feeds the Braille Plus just seems to lock itself and I can't do anything at all except a reset. I was so frustrated this week that i almost sent the thing back, but despite its bugs, I love this little friend! I still haven't been able to do email, but i have to speak to my Frontier tech guys. Just haven't gotten to it yet. BookShare presents problems for me also. I'd like to see the New Books category available too. I want to thank all those who have been involved in creating this lovely device for us and who continue to make it the best product on the market for the blind! Arianna Calesso----- Original Message ----- From: "Crystal French" <raincrow@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 8:14 AM Subject: [icon-discuss] Web Browser issues? Hi, I seem to have a lot of trouble using the web browser. Last night, I was trying to read an ebay page, and it hung on some kind of list, and would go no further, no matter what I tried to do. Kind of like it got into a briar patch and could not extricate itself. I finally got out of the browser, and, then, tried to close it with the Task Manager. That didn't work either. It took a reset to get the Braille Plus functioning correctly, again. This is pretty much how my previous tries with the browser have gone, too. I was not running any other applications at the time, and, I have the most current version of the software. Does anyone else have similar problems, or am I not doing something right? Crystal ------------------------------ From: Richard Turner <richard@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 09:35:55 -0700 Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Web Browser issues? Hi Crystal, The only time I've been able to get passed that kind of a list is to use the find function, control f and search for a word I am pretty sure is beyond the list. Not a good solution, but the only one I have come up with so far. The good folks at APH and Levelstar need to take a good look at this one if they haven't. I hope this helps. Richard On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 07:14:19 -0500, Crystal French wrote:Hi, I seem to have a lot of trouble using the web browser. Last night, I was trying to read an ebay page, and it hung on some kind of list, and would go no further, no matter what I tried to do. Kind of like it got into a briar patch and could not extricate itself. I finally got out of the browser, and, then, tried to close it with the Task Manager. That didn't work either. It took a reset to get the Braille Plus functioning correctly, again. This is pretty much how my previous tries with the browser have gone, too. I was not running any other applications at the time, and, I have the most current version of the software. Does anyone else have similar problems, or am I not doing something right? Crystal------------------------------ From: "Eric SS" <sseric57@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [icon-discuss] Just Wondering Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 13:26:33 -0400 Over the past week, I have sent out a couple of messages asking about what and when the Icon/Braille Plus might have upgrades. I have not heard word one back from either effort. I haven't gotten so many messages at all, so I am just wondering if my notes are getting out. If anyone saw those, can you just assure me I asked the right questions. Whether or not there are any good answers, well... ------------------------------ From: "james hooper" <james_hooper@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Just Wondering Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 11:30:00 -0600 james here in denver you are coming in loud and clear bro.----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric SS" <sseric57@xxxxxxxxx>To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 11:26 AM Subject: [icon-discuss] Just WonderingOver the past week, I have sent out a couple of messages asking about what and when the Icon/Braille Plus might have upgrades. I have not heard word one back from either effort. I haven't gotten so many messages at all, so I am just wondering if my notes are getting out. If anyone saw those, can you just assure me I asked the right questions. Whether or not there are any good answers, well...------------------------------ From: "Crystal French" <raincrow@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Web Browser issues? Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 13:33:23 -0500 Richard, I will give that a try next time. The thing was that it got so hung up, it wouldn't shut up, just kept repeating the same thing over and over. Once I got it quiet, it then refused to do anything else. Ah, machinery! Got to love it! Crystal ------------------------------ From: "Robert Acosta" <boacosta@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [icon-discuss] Richard, can you resend your helpful advice on Browser? Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 13:10:00 -0700 Richard, can you please resend your helpful advice on Browser? I have an Icon friend who needs more help than i can give him apparently. he cannot turn off his browser. Bob Acosta ------------------------------ From: "Richard Turner" <richard@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Richard, can you resend your helpful advice on Brow Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 13:53:16 -0700 Hi, My help was for getting beyond a list box. Use control+f to find a word beyond that. Otherwise, if he cannot turn it off from the task manager, the only other way to go is a reset. He also needs to be patient. Sometimes, it takes several minutes for it to get unstuck. I would try launching the task manager and stopping it from there first and wait a bit. Also, turning off the wireless, and waiting then trying to stop the browser may work in some cases. When all else fails, reset. I hope that is useful. Later, Richard --- -----Original Message----- From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Robert Acosta Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 1:10 PM To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [icon-discuss] Richard, can you resend your helpful advice on Browser? Richard, can you please resend your helpful advice on Browser? I have an Icon friend who needs more help than i can give him apparently. he cannot turn off his browser. Bob Acosta ------------------------------ From: "gregg boss" <aar6cv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Just Wondering Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 18:07:29 -0500 Hi, Yes your e-mail is going out. All we know is "soon", no specific date has been given. According to the last levelstar podcast it indicated in a few weeks. I hope this answers your query. Also, the folks at both APH and Levelstar make notes of the problems encountered on this list and put them on a list to resolve. Right now, they are working on fixing bugs, then adding additional features according to Mike at levelstar. Gregg Boss -----Original Message----- From: icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:icon-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eric SS Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 12:27 PM To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [icon-discuss] Just Wondering Over the past week, I have sent out a couple of messages asking about what and when the Icon/Braille Plus might have upgrades. I have not heard word one back from either effort. I haven't gotten so many messages at all, so I am just wondering if my notes are getting out. If anyone saw those, can you just assure me I asked the right questions. Whether or not there are any good answers, well... ------------------------------ From: "CB" <cnoc78@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [icon-discuss] update free? Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 18:57:06 -0500 Hi all, Just wondering if anyone knows if the soon to be released update will be free or if you need a SMA to get it? thanks, CB ------------------------------ From: "Larry Lumpkin" <llumpkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: update free? Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 19:45:33 -0500 I believe you get free software downloadable updating for a year after purchase after which you can by yearly agreements of several kinds.----- Original Message ----- From: CBTo: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 6:57 PM Subject: [icon-discuss] update free? Hi all, Just wondering if anyone knows if the soon to be released update will be free or if you need a SMA to get it? thanks, CB ------------------------------ From: "Sharon Hamm" <shamm1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Just Wondering Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 19:55:25 -0500 We don't know when updates are coming until they tell us. That's been my experience in the past. Sharon----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric SS" <sseric57@xxxxxxxxx>To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 12:26 PM Subject: [icon-discuss] Just WonderingOver the past week, I have sent out a couple of messages asking about what and when the Icon/Braille Plus might have upgrades. I have not heard word one back from either effort. I haven't gotten so many messages at all, so I am just wondering if my notes are getting out. If anyone saw those, can you just assure me I asked the right questions. Whether or not there are any good answers, well... -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.10.23/924 - Release Date: 7/28/2007 3:50 PM------------------------------ From: "Eric SS" <sseric57@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Just Wondering Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 21:04:39 -0400 Thanks all for your feedback. GMail doesn't forward me my own messages and the list traffic seemed a bit lighter lately, so I just wasn't sure I was coming through. I appreciate the help! ------------------------------ From: "kaye zimpher" <kayezimpher@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Richard, can you resend your helpful advice on Brow Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 21:18:38 -0400 He can't turn it off? Has he tried pressing the applications key and holding it down until he hears a beep that will bring him in to the list of programs running then he should nav down until he hears browser and press the options menu key which will gi ve him the option to either "switch to" or "stop" press select on "stop" It is not recommended to take this action but if an application truly will not exit that is probably the only way.----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Acosta" <boacosta@xxxxxxxxxxx>To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 4:10 PM Subject: [icon-discuss] Richard, can you resend your helpful advice on Browser?Richard, can you please resend your helpful advice on Browser? I have an Icon friend who needs more help than i can give him apparently. he cannot turn off his browser. Bob Acosta------------------------------ End of icon-discuss Digest V2 #151 **********************************
