You're very welcome. Marta On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 10:05:42 -0500, stacey robinson wrote: >Hi Marta, >Thanks so much. >This is very helpful. > >Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Chesley >In Tennessee. >staceyr75@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Marta Rodriguez" <yerbabruja@xxxxxxxx> >To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 8:43 AM >Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: adesso mini keyboard > > >>hello: >> >>first of all, i found the adesso mini keyboard at the micro Center, but >>amazon offers them as well. Had seen it some years ago, when I was >>looking for smaller keyboards that would fit in a laptop bag, but had >>rejected it, because it did not have the calculator keypad on the >>right, which most keyboards have, and which you would need in order to >>use the jaw's say all key, turn the virtual cursor on and off, and use >>the left and right mouse keys. But then I decided that it would be >>just right for the braille Plus and bought it off the micro center web >>site. >> >>Before describing this keyboard to you, I think I should caution you to >>make sure that you ask for the adesso USB computer mini keyboard when >>you conduct searches for it, as adesso seems to produce a variety of >>these keyboards, including musical keyboards. >> >>now for the description: The keyboard is roughly 8 or 10 inches wide, >>and about six inches long. It has one control key, and two windows >>keys. It has two alt keys, and all 12 function keys. The left shift >>key is above the last key on the left, which I don't know what it is, >>as the control key is to the right of it. The left down and right >>arrows are to the extreme right of the keyboard. to the left of the >>left arrow is the delete key. the home key is located on the right of >>the keyboard, second row. below that is the page up, pagedown, and end >>keys. >> >>Because the keyboard is a little smaller than a regular keyboard, the >>function keys are not separated from the number keys, and what is more, >>they do not look any different from the rest of the typing keys. So, >>you must remember that the keys on the top row are function keys. >> >>Hope this helps. >> >>Marta >> >> >>On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:19:05 -0400, Robert DeYoung wrote: >> >> >>>Hi, >>>Will you please describe this keyboard further? Is it a bluetooth >>>keyboard? Does it have a row of functions keys as well as the qwerty >>>boards? Where did you find it? >>>Thanks. >>>Robert >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>Marta Rodriguez <yerbabruja@xxxxxxxx> 4/16/2008 1:23 AM >>> >>>I don't find the braille keyboard on the Braille Plus to be cramped. >>>It's almost set up like those ergonomic keyboards, the 1 2 3 and 4 5 6 >>>keys a little farther away from each other so that you don't have your >>>arms together in front of you while you're typing, as you often do with >>>a regular Qwerty keyboard. >>> >>>But you might want to consider that if you don't like the braille >>>keyboard, you can always add a qwerty keyboard to the device, which >>>would certainly give you a little more typing room. I just got myself >>>one of those Adesso mini keyboards, the type that is small enough to >>>carry in a laptop bag or a big purse. I use that with the Braille Plus >>>when I get tired of using its own braille keyboard. Also have a >>>foldable rubber keyboard, but find that keyboard isn't as easy to use >>>as the Adesso one. >>> >>>Marta >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: Zachary Kline >>>To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 1:13 AM >>>Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Question for all BraillePLUS owners; also >>>getting some window-shopping time with the BraillePlus >>> >>> >>>Hi, >>>The Braille Plus keyboard isn't crampt, in my opinion. It feels quite >>>spacious compared to the BNS keyboard I remember. >>>The braille keys themselves are spaced wide enough for my finger s to >>>fit between them. >>>The keypad is a little close together, but no more so than an average >>>chordless telephone, and a lot wider than some cell phones. >>>I'm not living in your area, so afraid I can't help with the loan issue. >>>Best, >>>Zack. >>> >>>On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 09:48:59PM -0700, Rob Lambert wrote: >>>> >>>>I have seen some pictures of the Plus (I use a very powerful magnifier >>>>on my MacBook) and the keyboard looks cramped. I've still got a 15 year >>>>old Braille 'n Speak and I know what cramped keyboards are like because >>>>of it. LOL I have not updated in 15 years, and I really am looking at a >>>>new device, but i'm at...well...6 forks in the road. LOL. I'm looking >>>>very closely at the Braille Plus as one of the devices I'd like to get. >>>>So yeah is the keyboard on the BraillePlus cramped? Also, a good friend >>>>of mine told me that where she is if she needs to look at something >>>>such as the BraillePlus or Icon, that she can (in the sense of >>>>equipment loans for review purposes). I'm from Nevada and I'm not sure >>>>what we have here besides Easter Seals (which I heard on the news last >>>>week will be closing due to funding issues I think) and the NFB and I'm >>>>not sure if they have a tech lab or not. I know the local Blind Center >>>>only has the BrailleNote and PACmate (last I looked). What I'd like to >>>>do is to actually make a hard look at the device, but I can't make it >>>>to the conventions this summer due to my need to take the Praxis for my >>>>bachelors in special ed. >>>> >>>>_________________________________________________________________ >>>>Get in touch in an instant. 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