[icon-discuss] Re: Question for all BraillePLUS owners;alsogettingsome window-shopping time with th
- From: "MICHAEL MCCARTY" <mmccarty@xxxxxxx>
- To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 08:19:34 -0400
If you use the belt clip a lot, it can bulge out at the end that connects it to
the rest of the case, what I do is to really flatten that flap down before
connecting it to the velcro and it seems to be OK.
>>> staceyr75@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 04/25/08 08:17AM >>>
Hi Michael,
I am not sure why, but my case doesn't sit flat.
All I can figure is it's because of the belt clip.
Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Chesley
In Tennessee.
staceyr75@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: "MICHAEL MCCARTY" <mmccarty@xxxxxxx>
To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 6:59 AM
Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Question for all BraillePLUS
owners;alsogettingsome window-shopping time with th
I don't have any problems sitting my unit flat on the desk.
>>> staceyr75@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 04/25/08 07:48AM >>>
Hi Jeremiah,
I don't use my case very much.
When a different one is released I would buy it and use it more I'm sure.
The belt clip on the current case doesn't allow the unit to sit flat on
surfaces. If you are using your case, this could be why you have input
issues.
Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Chesley
In Tennessee.
staceyr75@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremiah Z. Rogers" <jeremiahzrogers@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 9:46 PM
Subject: [icon-discuss] Re: Question for all BraillePLUS owners;also getting
some window-shopping time with the BraillePlus
> Hi again Rob and listers. Given the overwhelming number, and tone, of the
> responses to my message a couple weeks back about my experiencing
> difficulty, and relative dissatisfaction with, brailling on the Braille+,
> I
> spent some time attempting to better my results and/or determine where and
> what my problems inputting braille into the device really were.
>
> I have determined that my difficulties entering braille into the device
> stem
> largely from entering braille in the most mobile or non-traditional
> brailling situations, for example on my lap or while lying in bed. I find
> that I make lots of errors brailling when the device is on my lap that do
> not occur when the device is on a table or other flat surface. I can much
> more efficiently produce documents in the word processor, email, planner
> entries, and addresses when I'm able to use a table. I also took the
> device
> out of its case for several days and found that, though roughly the same
> difference in accuracy between data entered on hard and soft surfaces
> still
> existed, I felt like I had a better grasp of when characters might've been
> missed or improperly formed when the device was out of its case. As a
> result
> of my paying attention to some of these variables, I'd alter my original
> commentary to Rob by saying that I trust data entry on the device much
> less
> on softer surfaces than when brailling on hard ones, and would love to
> know
> from the list whether those of you who so emphatically asserted that you
> found braille input on the device to be satisfactory use your cases or
> primarily keep your devices naked.
>
> Hope this information is of some use to you Rob or others, and I'll of
> course be glad to read commentary spurred on by this post.
>
> Very gratefully,
>
> Jeremiah Z. Rogers
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeremiah Z: Rogers [mailto:jeremiahzrogers@xxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 16 10:27
> To: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [icon-discuss] Question for all BraillePLUS owners;also
> getting
> some window-shopping time with the BraillePlus
>
> Hi Rob. I happily use the Braille+ for many personal and professional
> tasks,
> but I do find interacting with the device bothersome in several ways. I
> find
> the braille keys on the device to be a bit cramped, and I find that I make
> many more brailling errors with the device than I do when using any other
> device which allowed for braille input. I've struggled to put my finger on
> why that is, but I think it has to do with the device not accepting some
> keystrokes I attempt or the keys not always being pressed when I think
> they
> are. I feel it necessary to proofread much more carefully, and have to
> find
> and correct many more errors, using this device than others. I also find
> the
> telephone keypad on the device less comfortable than I'd hoped it would be
> in terms of the ability to push the buttons for a long period of time. The
> braille and telephone keypad keys, and for that matter all of the keys on
> the device, are noisy when pressed, and the telephone keys feel almost
> pointed after using them for ten minutes or so. I've never seen the Icon,
> and am incredibly curious about the physical differences between it and
> the
> Braille+. I hear that it is rounded on the bottom instead of the right
> angles on the bottom of the Braille+, so I wonder if it wouldn't feel
> better
> in a pocket than the
> Braille+. I'm also very curious about the feel, action, and noise of the
> Braille+telephone keys on
> the Icon. I'd like to try thumb braille on the Icon and use that as my
> comparrison to life with the
> Braille+. I use thumb braille on occasion with the Braille+, and it
> Braille+works fine but I think it
> would be much more desirable with a larger keypad perhaps like that found
> on
> the Icon. Hope all this babble is of some use, and I look forward to
> reading
> further discussion on the list.
>
> Jeremiah
>
> On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:48:59 -0700, Rob Lambert wrote:
>
>
>
>>I have seen some pictures of the Plus (I use a very powerful magnifier
>>on my MacBook) and the keyboard looks cramped. I've still got a 15 year
>>old Braille 'n Speak and I know what cramped keyboards are like because
>>of it. LOL I have not updated in 15 years, and I really am looking at a
>>new device, but i'm at...well...6 forks in the road. LOL. I'm looking
>>very closely at the Braille Plus as one of the devices I'd like to get.
>>So yeah is the keyboard on the BraillePlus cramped? Also, a good friend
>>of mine told me that where she is if she needs to look at something
>>such as the BraillePlus or Icon, that she can (in the sense of
>>equipment loans for review purposes). I'm from Nevada and I'm not sure
>>what we have here besides Easter Seals (which I heard on the news last
>>week will be closing due to funding issues I think) and the NFB and I'm
>>not sure if they have a tech lab or not. I know the local Blind Center
>>only has the BrailleNote and PACmate (last I looked). What I'd like to
>>do is to actually make a hard look at the device, but I can't make it
>>to the conventions this summer due to my need to take the Praxis for my
>>bachelors in special ed. Get in touch in an instant. Get Windows Live
>>Messenger now.
>
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