Hi: You really can't judge this device by the look, but rather by feel. Also, as with any other APH product, we offer a Customer Satisfaction guarantee. So, you could purchase one and if you're not satisfied, just call up and ask for a Return Authorization. That way, you can find out for yourself. Pamela Rader, TECHNICAL SUPPORT American Printing House For The Blind 1839 Frankfort Ave. Louisville, KY 40206 PHONE: 1-800-223-1839, Ext. 307 >>> rml695@xxxxxxxxxxx 04/16/08 12:48AM >>> I have seen some pictures of the Plus (I use a very powerful magnifier on my MacBook) and the keyboard looks cramped. I've still got a 15 year old Braille 'n Speak and I know what cramped keyboards are like because of it. LOL I have not updated in 15 years, and I really am looking at a new device, but i'm at...well...6 forks in the road. LOL. I'm looking very closely at the Braille Plus as one of the devices I'd like to get. So yeah is the keyboard on the BraillePlus cramped? Also, a good friend of mine told me that where she is if she needs to look at something such as the BraillePlus or Icon, that she can (in the sense of equipment loans for review purposes). I'm from Nevada and I'm not sure what we have here besides Easter Seals (which I heard on the news last week will be closing due to funding issues I think) and the NFB and I'm not sure if they have a tech lab or not. I know the local Blind Center only has the BrailleNote and PACmate (last I looked). What I'd like to do is to actually make a hard look at the device, but I can't make it to the conventions this summer due to my need to take the Praxis for my bachelors in special ed. _________________________________________________________________ Get in touch in an instant. Get Windows Live Messenger now. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_getintouch_042008 Icon Discuss Mailing List icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx //www.freelists.org/list/icon-discuss To unsubscribe from the list send a blank message with unsubscribe in the subject line to: icon-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To post to this list, send your message to: icon-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx For answers to the most frequently asked questions about Icon and Braille +, Visit the LevelStar and APH FAQ pages: Visit the LevelStar FAQ page at http://www.levelstar.com/support-faqs.php Visit the APH FAQ page at http://sun1.aph.org/webcast/brailleplus2/faq.html