[ibis-macro] Minutes from the 10 Apr 2007 ibis-atm meeting
- From: "Mike LaBonte \(milabont\)" <milabont@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 10:14:46 -0400
Minutes from the 10 Apr 2007 ibis-atm meeting are attached. ARs:
AR: Todd will fix a few typos in the presentation
The presentation can be found in the Work Archive at
http://www.vhdl.org/pub/ibis/macromodel_wip/. We decided to skip a week,
so the next meeting will be 24 Apr 2007.
Mike
IBIS Macromodel Task Group
Meeting date: 10 Apr 2007
Members (asterisk for those attending):
* Ambrish Varma, Cadence Design Systems
* Arpad Muranyi, Intel Corp.
Barry Katz, SiSoft
* Bob Ross, Teraspeed Consulting Group
* Doug White, Cisco Systems
* Ganesh Narayanaswamy, ST Micro
* Hemant Shah, Cadence Design Systems
Ian Dodd, Mentor Graphics
Joe Abler, IBM
* John Angulo, Mentor Graphics
John Shields, Mentor Graphics
Ken Willis, Cadence Design Systems
* Kumar, Cadence Design Systems
Lance Wang, Cadence Design Systems
Luis Boluna, Cisco
* Michael Mirmak, Intel Corp.
* Mike LaBonte, Cisco Systems
* Mike Steinberger, SiSoft
Patrick O'Halloran, Tiburon Design Automation
Paul Fernando, NCSU
* Radek Biernacki, Agilent (EESof)
* Randy Wolff, Micron Technology
Richard Ward, Texas Instruments
Sanjeev Gupta, Agilent
Shangli Wu, Cadence
Stephen Scearce, Cisco Systems
Syed Huq, Cisco Systems
* Todd Westerhoff, SiSoft
Vikas Gupta, Xilinx
* Vuk Borich, Agilent
* Walter Katz, SiSoft
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Call for patent disclosure:
No one declared a patent.
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Opens:
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Review of ARs:
- Arpad: Review the new macro library files.
TBD
- Arpad: Write parameter passing syntax proposal for a possible BIRD
TBD
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New Discussion:
Presentation by three EDA vendors:
- Presented by Todd
- Gives a fairly complete description of the developed approach.
- Slide 11:
- Arpad asked about "non LTI" assumptions, which seemed backward.
- Vuk: by assuming non LTI, no special simulator is required
- Slide 13:
- Ignore_Bits tells simulator that some number of initial bits
may be garbage.
- Ignore_Bits is a standard parameter
- Other parameters may be optional
- Arpad asked what use non-standard parameters have:
- Simulator will not know what to do with them.
- Walter: Strength can be set by user, the model knows what to do.
- Slide 15:
- Arpad: How many non-linear waveforms are needed when Init() used?
- Kumar: maybe millions of bits; as many as it takes
- Walter:
- Without crosstalk 1 million bits need to be simulated
- With crosstalk 10 million bits are needed
- This is not verified.
- Todd: some semi vendors feel the need to simulate time varying behavior
- TX GetWave() should have PWL stimulus
- Some color change suggestions for clarity.
AR: Todd will fix a few typos in the presentation
We will talk about drafting a BIRD in the next meeting, in 2 weeks.
Next meeting: 24 Apr 2007 12:00pm PT
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