[ibis-macro] Re: IBIS-ATM teleconference - October 7, 2014 - CANCELLED > follow up to Todd's question from last week
- From: Ambrish Varma <ambrishv@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "IBIS-ATM (ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx)" <ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 14:51:24 -0700
Hi Arpad,
I believe that is what Ken meant (correct me if I am wrong Ken). After reviewed
by the IBIS subcommittee - it will be IBIS approved and be called ibis_xyz.bci
- where xyz is the requested name.
Thanks,
Ambrish.
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On Behalf Of Muranyi, Arpad
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 5:44 PM
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> follow up to Todd's question from last week
Ken,
Thanks for your answer. I think there was another aspect to
Todd's question in addition to what you answered. Is it OK
to call that "private-public" protocol an IBIS approved BCI
file? (Todd, Walter, correct me if I used the wrong words,
but I thought this was a big part of your question)...
Thanks,
Arpad
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On Behalf Of Ken Willis
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 4:03 PM
To: Todd Westerhoff
Cc: IBIS-ATM (ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx)
Subject: [ibis-macro] Re: IBIS-ATM teleconference - October 7, 2014 - CANCELLED
> follow up to Todd's question from last week
Hi Todd,
I was planning on addressing your "hinge question" from last week regarding
backchannel in the IBIS-ATM call today, but it was cancelled. So responding
here in email.
OK, so the intent of posting BCI files to the IBIS website for industry
standard protocols (ex. PCI Express, 10Gbase-KR, etc.), is to make them
available to all AMI model developers, enabling them to code their AMI models
to include backchannel functionality for these standards, and thereby enabling
interoperability between AMI models from different AMI model suppliers for
those standards.
If an AMI model developer has control over both Tx and Rx AMI model
development, they can also make up their own BCI file, as long as it adheres to
IBIS-legal syntax, and define their own Protocol_Specific parameters that the
Tx and Rx understand. We have been calling this a "private protocol". Any
IBIS-compliant EDA tool should be able to use those AMI models along with the
BCI file, and everything should just work. This is all perfectly legal, and you
don't need to get the BCI file posted to the IBIS website or anything. It could
just be distributed with the AMI model kit from the AMI model supplier.
OK, so with that backdrop, your hinge question from last week:
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If SISoft worked together with some SerDes IP suppliers, and put together Tx
and Rx AMI models along with a BCI file for a private protocol, would SISoft
have the option to provide the BCI file to the IBIS sub-committee, and have it
posted to the IBIS website?
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I don't see any reason why not. You wouldn't have to do that, as you could just
give the BCI file out as part of the AMI model kit. But if you wanted to make
it public, and maybe attract others to adopt it, I don't see any issues with
that. It would have to be of legal IBIS syntax and pass IBIS review just like
an IEEE standard BCI file, but then I don't see any problem with posting it on
the IBIS website.
Thanks,
Ken
Ken Willis | Product Engineering Director - High Speed Analysis Products
P: 980-245-7595 www.cadence.com
-----Original Message-----
From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Muranyi, Arpad
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 11:32 AM
To: ibis-macro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ibis-macro] IBIS-ATM teleconference - October 7, 2014 - CANCELLED
I need to cancel today's ATM teleconference. Sorry for the
inconvenience. If there are any urgent topics to be discussed
I would encourage to use our email reflector...
Thanks,
Arpad
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