The file for the Out/InOut BIRD draft has been posted to the ATM web site for today's discussion: http://www.vhdl.org/pub/ibis/macromodel_wip/archive/20110412/arpadmurany i/Out-InOut%20BIRD%20draft%206/Out_InOut_BIRD_06.pdf Please take a few minutes to look it over for the meeting if possible. Thanks, Arpad =========================================================== -----Original Message----- From: ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ibis-macro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Muranyi, Arpad Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 12:15 PM To: IBIS-ATM Subject: [ibis-macro] IBIS-ATM teleconference - Agenda for 4/12/2011 Time: April 12, 2011 Noon US Pacific Time ===== Audio: ====== Voice dial-in: (800) 637-5822 International: +1 (647) 723-3937 <--- (For Canada) 0114501530 <--- (For Sweden) 0201400572 <--- (For Sweden Toll Free) 069509594672 <--- (For Germany) 08001014542 <--- (For Germany Toll free) Access Code: 685-0440 Web === Click Here to Join Live Meeting: http://tinyurl.com/yvmesj or: https://www.livemeeting.com/cc/sisoft/join?id=NKQQN3&role=attend&pw=TP8j %23-%25%7E5 Mentor Global Crossing Teleconference commands: http://www.globalcrossing.com/customer/collaboration/cust_ready_access_t ips.aspx FIRST TIME USERS: To save time before the meeting, check your system to make sure it is compatible with Microsoft Office Live Meeting. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Agenda ====== 1) Opens 2) Call for any related patent disclosures 3) Review of ARs: Any other AR-s? Old ARs: Arpad: Review the documentation (annotation) in the macro libraries. - deferred until a demand arises or we have nothing else to do 4) Cross talk BIRD draft - any last minute comments? - vote to submit it to the IBIS Open Forum 5) Out_InOut BIRD draft - discussion - schedule a vote 6) (Format) Table Syntax Clarification (Row 21, 22) from Ambrish, Walter and Bob - last week we decided to accept Bob's suggestions from these: - Table_BIRD_Ambrish_02.pdf (Ambrish) - Table_BIRD_Walter_05.pdf (Walter) - Table_BIRD_Bob_proposal_02.pdf (Bob) 7a) BIRD 123.2, jitter parameters (includes Row 37) - review latest changes (additions) from Walter - do the changes answer the questions raised before: - remove Usage Out from the BIRD? or - specify which function (Init or GetWave) can return values? - specify what the EDA tool should do with the returned values? 7b) BIRD 121, data management parameters (file support) - questions, comments? 7c) BIRD 124, dependency table - questions, comments? 8) Analog BIRD draft (Walter) - questions, comments? 9) Backchannel BIRD draft (Ken) - questions, comments? 10) IBIS-AMI Section 6c Tables Update (Table1_3_BIRD_draft_1.pdf) - this is on hold until all related items are defined 11) Define relationship between Type and Format (Row 25 in Task List Type_Format_Table_BIRD_02.pdf) - this is on hold until all related items are defined Remaining Task List items: ========================== Row 18: What is the ambiguity between Format and Text Strings? - answer: See row 25 Row 21: According to the BNF, the Format = Table syntax is invalid. - If Format is removed, this s not a problem, but if Format is there the problem still exists. Do we need to fix this? - we will address this when talking about Table Row 22: The syntax for a leaf is: (Row 22 in Task List) <leaf>: ( <parameter name> whitespace <value list> ) So in a Table which is written like this: (-50 -0.1 1e-35), -50 is actually a parameter name, i.e. a string, not a value. -deprecate Table back to List? - we will address this when talking about Table Row 23/24: Fix the two tables to reflect what is in the text - Bob started a BIRD draft which will be finalized as other BIRDs are completed Row 25: Define relationship between Type and Format - discuss Walter's suggestions Row 26: This is basically the same as the items in Row 46-47. Row 33: Is AMI_Init restricted to change first column of impulse_matrix only? - Sigrity is writing a BIRD draft on this (Ken) Row 35: Clarify questions about impulse response - this needs to be discussed Row 37: Usage Out for reserved (jitter) parameters - which function (Init or GetWave) can return these? 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